Question about tension and deflection (Mechanics of Material)

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The discussion revolves around solving a mechanics problem involving a rigid bar connected to three rods under tension due to a force P. The original poster struggles to find sufficient equations, noting they have four equations but only three relevant ones. Participants suggest focusing on the rigid nature of the bar and using a force-couple system to simplify the problem. They emphasize the importance of geometric compatibility and the ability of the rods to extend or compress. Ultimately, the poster finds a solution by adjusting the unknown force P to create a solvable system of equations.
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Hello everyone, I have some difficulties to solve this question in my homework.

Homework Statement


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Rigid bar ACE connected to rod AB, CD, EF which have same material and surface area A. Calculate tension caused by force P in three rods.

2. Homework Equations
Equation :
sigma Fy = 0
sigma M =0
comparison between deflection in A, C, and E


The Attempt at a Solution


I try to solve this question but I can't find sufficient equation to solve it. It have 4 equations and I only find 3. Please help me solve this.
 
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Have you tried summing the moments around different points?
 
You haven't shown your working, but have you considered the property of the bar that it is rigid? What does that imply for the displacements of A, C and E?
 
shinizaki said:
. Relevant equations
Equation :
sigma Fy = 0
sigma M =0
comparison between deflection in A, C, and E
these are your 3 relevant 'equations'
It has 4 equations and I only find 3.
there are 3 relevant equations (as you note; the last is concerned with geometric compatability) and 3 unknowns (the tensions in each rod). What do you mean by four ?(the x direction is irrelevant here). Note that the bar is rigid, but that the rods can extend or compress (which should have been more clearly stated in the problem). Hint: This problem is best solved by replacing the force P with an equivalent force-couple system at midpoint.
 
When I try a few times again, I can solve it at last ! The unknown P I change to one so I have 3 unknowns and 3 equation then revert it back to P. Thanks all^^
 
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