I Question about the Derivation of the Equations of Vibration

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The discussion revolves around the differential equation for undamped free vibrations, represented as mu'' + ku = 0, leading to the general solution u = Acosωt + Bsinωt. The challenge is understanding the transformation of this equation into the form u = Rcos(ωt - Φ), where R and Φ relate to initial conditions. It is clarified that A and B can be any constants, and by selecting A = RcosΦ and B = RsinΦ, one can conveniently reformulate the solution. The relationship between A, B, and the initial displacement and velocity is emphasized, illustrating how these values can be chosen to fit the system's dynamics. Overall, the discussion highlights the flexibility in representing the solution to the vibration equation while maintaining the connection to physical parameters.
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Derivation of Equation of Vibration
For undamped free vibrations, we have the following differential equation.

mu'' + ku = 0

where m is the mass of the object hanging on the end of a spring, and u is the distance from the equilibrium position as a function of time.

This yields u = Acosωt + Bsinωt

where ω is √(k/m) (k=spring constant).

I am having trouble understanding why this can be rewritten as

u = RcosΦcosωt + RsinΦsinωt (which, in turn, = Rcos(ωt -Φ) )

If A represents the initial displacement from equilibrium (ui), I can see how we could set this equal to RcosΦ, (R being the maximum displacement) thereby defining Φ to be that value which makes ui=RcosΦ true. But, I don't see why B must, in that case, necessarily be RsinΦ.

It looks like B must be the initial velocity (vi) multiplied by m/k.
 
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This just occurred to me:

Since the solution u = Acosωt + Bsinωt is general, A and B can be any two constants. If we choose two arbitrary constants for A and B, this will determine the initial displacement and the initial velocity.

Alternatively, if we choose two arbitrary values for the initial displacement and velocity, these will determine A and B.

In this case, we are choosing values for A and B. These values then determine the initial velocity and displacement. We could choose any values we wish, but we chose these values (A= RcosΦ and B=RsinΦ) because they enable the convenient reformulation Rcos(ωt -Φ).

Any more insights would be appreciated.
 
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You mentioned a mass hanging from a spring and its displacement (m,k,u). The solution is Acosωt + Bsinωt where both A and B have displacement units. I understand those. The R and Φ look like polar coordinates, range and angle. Does your spring hang from a pivot? Describe exactly what is vibrating.
 
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Amadeo said:
This just occurred to me:

Since the solution u = Acosωt + Bsinωt is general, A and B can be any two constants. If we choose two arbitrary constants for A and B, this will determine the initial displacement and the initial velocity.

Alternatively, if we choose two arbitrary values for the initial displacement and velocity, these will determine A and B.

In this case, we are choosing values for A and B. These values then determine the initial velocity and displacement. We could choose any values we wish, but we chose these values (A= RcosΦ and B=RsinΦ) because they enable the convenient reformulation Rcos(ωt -Φ).

Any more insights would be appreciated.

Another way to look at it: the set ##(A, B)## is just the set of any two numbers. You could think of this as points in a plane expressed in Cartesian coordinates. Equally, you could express this in polar coordinates ##(R\cos \phi, R \sin \phi)##, where ##R^2 = A^2 + B^2## etc.
 
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