Question involving load on beams

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The discussion revolves around calculating reactions, bending moments, and shear force diagrams for a beam subjected to multiple loads, specifically focusing on two cases presented by the original poster. The context includes both conceptual understanding and practical application of structural analysis principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster presents a scenario involving three loads on a beam and requests assistance in calculating reactions and drawing diagrams.
  • Some participants suggest that the original poster should list relevant equations and show their work if this is a school assignment.
  • One participant advises summing forces and moments in the vertical direction and drawing the shear diagram based on that information.
  • The original poster clarifies that this is not a homework assignment but an effort to learn the concept, indicating they have done some preliminary calculations.
  • Another participant notes that in Case #1, there is no applied moment at the first load, leading to a negative slope in the moment diagram until the upward force is applied, suggesting a potential mistake in the original poster's calculations.
  • A participant confirms that Case #2 appears correct but does not verify the numbers.
  • The original poster shares their worked-out solution for Case #1 and invites feedback on their approach.
  • Expressions of gratitude are exchanged among participants for the assistance received, indicating collaborative support in the learning process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to approach the problem, but there are differing views on the correctness of specific calculations, particularly between the two cases discussed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the original poster's calculations.

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There are limitations regarding the clarity of the original poster's calculations and the assumptions made in their analysis. The discussion relies on the provided information and the interpretations of the participants without definitive verification of the results.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in structural analysis, particularly those seeking to understand the application of shear and moment diagrams in beam loading scenarios.

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Hey, so there are three loads on a beam the units they are is in pounds (i.e. 7200pounds is one of the loads). There are two cases each for which I need to calculate reactions and draw bending moments and a sheer force diagram.

The PDF attachment contains the information in more detail help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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luysion: Is this a school assignment? If so, you must list relevant equations, and show your work.
 
sum forces and moments in y and at a pivot point. draw shear diag from that info.

integral of shear is moment. just make sure you got equil. on your beam.
 
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hey nick and nvn thanks a lot, this isn't my homework nvn heh I am trying to learn this concept.
ive done some working out if any1 could check it out much appreciated
 

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In case 1, there is no applied moment at the point in which the first load is applied, therefore the moment would start at zero. until the upward force of 7200, all areas on the shear diagram are negative, which means all lines on the moment diagram until that point have a negative slope. I did not check your numbers, but that appears to be the only mistake.

Your case 2 appears right, but I did not run the numbers.
 
I have worked out Case #1... Please see the attached jpegs.

You can solve for Case #2 using the same methods described in the scaned images.

Let me know if you have a problem with it.

Regards,
 

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Nick bruno + Tony71502
thanks a lot guys really appreciate it
nick your working helped me out a heap thanks man :)

ive almost completed the work myself thanks to the help recieved
 

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