Question Regarding Linear Transformation

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I can't figure out how to take the first bite out of this one.

Homework Statement



Let T1: R^2 --> R^2 and T2: R^2 --> R^2 have the indicated properties. Find matrices A, B, and C such that:

T2T1x=Ax, T1T2x=Bx, (T1+T2)x=Cx

Homework Equations



T1e1=(1,3), T1e2=(2,2), T2e1=(-1,1), T2e2=(2,-1)

The Attempt at a Solution



I start by saying that T1e1+T2e1=(T1+T2)e1=(0,4)=Ce1 by adding the two matrices.

Using the same logic, I claim that T2e2+T1e2=(2,2)=(5,1)=Ce2

However, I can't go any further with that because I don't know e1 and e2, don't know T1, T2 (so I can't do the inverse of the transformation). Thus, I cannot find A, B, or C, that is, the sum and products of T1 and T2.

Thanks.
 
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are e1 & e2 the standard basis vectors (1,0) & (0,1)?
 
it doesn't really matter if the ej are the standard basis or not. they are obviously "some" basis, and we can only give a matrix relative to two bases (the domain basis and the co-domain basis), so we may as well choose {e1,e2} as the domain basis.
 
lanedance said:
are e1 & e2 the standard basis vectors (1,0) & (0,1)?

I don't know. Are e1 and e2 standard symbols for the standard basis vectors? Otherwise I think they are just referring to the general vectors {e1, e2}, rather than any specific vector. Perhaps I have to find those vectors first?

Deveno said:
it doesn't really matter if the ej are the standard basis or not. they are obviously "some" basis, and we can only give a matrix relative to two bases (the domain basis and the co-domain basis), so we may as well choose {e1,e2} as the domain basis.

That is how I have been approaching the problem thusfar, but as stated in the original problem post, cannot get any further.
 
lanedance said:
are e1 & e2 the standard basis vectors (1,0) & (0,1)?

It turns out that this is in fact the case. Still stuck, though...
 
scienceguy288 said:
It turns out that this is in fact the case. Still stuck, though...

Nevermind...I got C.

Still running into some trouble finding A and B, but will continue to work on it. If someone can give me a shove in the right direction, that would make my life that much easier...
 
If you have matrices representing T_1 and T_2 in the given basis (which are trivial to get), then, as you say, the matrix representing T_1+ T_2 is just the sum of those two matrices. And, of course, the matrices representing T_1T_2 and T_2T_1 are just the products of those two matrices in the given orders.
 
I have solved the problem. Thanks for the help.
 
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