Quick question, phasors and impedance

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The discussion clarifies that the minus sign in the angle of the current phasor is removed because it represents the complex conjugate, denoted as I*. This change in sign occurs when using the formula S = VI*, where S is the complex power. The factor of 0.5 is included when using peak values of voltage and current. Participants emphasize understanding the notation and the importance of recognizing the complex conjugate in phasor calculations. Mastery of these concepts is essential for accurate application in electrical engineering.
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On line S=0.5*V*I why is the minus sign removed from in front of the "I" angle. 25.38 specifically. Could is be a typo?

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It's not a typo. ##I## is complex conjugated, hence the star ##I^*##. When you complex conjugate a phasor, you change the sign of the angle.
 
ZetaOfThree said:
It's not a typo. ##I## is complex conjugated, hence the star ##I^*##. When you complex conjugate a phasor, you change the sign of the angle.
Do you always flip the minus sign when when using S=VI? And what about the half in front, all the time too?
 
Half in the front when you use peak values of V and I
 
clurt said:
Do you always flip the minus sign when when using S=VI?
if the formula is $$S = \frac{1}{2} \cdot V_s \cdot I^*_s $$ so you take ##I_s^*## which is the complex conjugate of ##I_s##. Since it's written in a modulus and phase format, you just have to invert the sign of the phase of ##I## to obtain it (draw both numbers in the complex plane and it's evident that the modulus stays the same but the phase changes).
I don't think you should memorize rules of flipping that sign or not, just read the formula (it's S = VI*, not S = VI). If you weren't able to see why the minus sign changed given the formula, then you either don't know the notation used here for the complex conjugate (in mathematics classes I've usually seen it written as ##\overline{I}##, but it's written the other way in engineering) or you need to study complex numbers.
 
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