Random Person Probability Problem

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The problem involves calculating probabilities related to randomly selecting individuals who are 85 years old, with a given probability of 0.008 for an individual being 85. The discussion centers on finding the probabilities for two people being selected, specifically addressing scenarios where both are 85, neither is 85, and at least one is 85.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of assuming an infinite pool size for probability calculations and question how the probability of 0.008 is determined. There is also exploration of how to approach the calculations for each scenario without a specified pool size.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to calculate the probabilities for each scenario. Some guidance has been provided regarding the independence of selections and the interpretation of probabilities, but no consensus has been reached on the final answers.

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There is uncertainty regarding the necessity of a specific pool size for the calculations, and participants are questioning the assumptions underlying the probability given. The professor's requirement for answers in percentage format is also noted.

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Homework Statement


The probability that a person picked at random is 85 years old is 0.008 . if two people are picked at random find the probability of that:
a. they are both 85
b. neither is 85
c. at least one is 85

I have two questions like this one and I am so confused as to how you would find the answer if you aren't given the pool size. could you show me how one would work this problem out?
Thanks :)
 
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You have to try. Start with the first one. Take the pool size to be infinite. So the choice of the first person doesn't affect the probabilities in making the second choice.
 
A probability of 0.008 means 8 out of a 1000.
 
right so the second result isn't affected by the first result right? You could pick another 85. I'm just trying to understand how they know that the chance of picking an 85 year old is .008 like how do they know that? Am I thinking too hard about this?
 
chrisk said:
A probability of 0.008 means 8 out of a 1000.

Hah! okay that makes much more sense. :)
 
thechicgeek said:
Hah! okay that makes much more sense. :)

That doesn't mean the pool size is 1000. I.e. the probability of picking a second 85 year old isn't 7/999. It's still 8/1000.
 
Dick said:
That doesn't mean the pool size is 1000. I.e. the probability of picking a second 85 year old isn't 7/999. It's still 8/1000.

got it. Okay well I'm going to try and work a, b, and c out and see what i can come up with.
 
okay so would a. =.006%
b. =98%
am I on the right track here?
 
thechicgeek said:
okay so would a. =.006%
b. =98%
am I on the right track here?

You multiplied the probabilities, right? I would leave it as 0.000064 rather that changing to % and rounding.
Same with the second. But yes, it looks like you are on the right track.
 
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Would c. be .8% or .0079
The professor wants the answer in percentage format.
 
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thechicgeek said:
Would c. be .8% or .0079
The professor wants the answer in percentage format.

Ok. Does he want you to round it off too? For c either the first one is 85 and the second one isn't or the second one is 85 and the first one isn't, or they are both 85. You could find the numbers for all three cases and add them. But the simple way to do it is to notice the answer is 1-(probability neither is 85).
 

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