Ratio Test for series convergence factoring problems

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the ratio test for determining the convergence of the series \(\Sigma \frac{2^n n!}{(n+2)!}\), which involves factorials and simplification techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the ratio test and the simplification of factorial expressions. Questions arise about how to properly factor out terms from the factorials involved, particularly regarding the relationship between \((n+2)!\) and \((n+3)!\).

Discussion Status

Several participants provide insights on how to factor factorials correctly, with some suggesting simplifications before applying the ratio test. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the steps involved, although no consensus on a final method has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the factorial simplifications and the implications of the ratio test in this context. The original poster indicates feeling lost in the process, highlighting the challenges faced in understanding the problem.

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Homework Statement


[tex]\Sigma[/tex]2nn!/(n+2)!


Homework Equations


I'm using the ratio test because there are factorials but I'm a little stuck on whether or not to factor out


The Attempt at a Solution


lim 2n+1(n+1)!/(n+3)!*(n+2)!/2n(n)! After I set it up here I'm not sure of how to factor out the factorials. would it end up looking like 2(n+1)(n+2)/(n+3) ?
 
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Close, it should simplify to [2(n+1)]/(n+3)
 
Alright so the (n+2)! would factor out. I wasn't sure whether or not I would just factor out the factorial or since the (n+3)! is bigger it would factor out the (n+2) as well. Thanks for your help.
 
(n+3)! factors out to (n+3)[(n+2)!]. You only have to factor it out that far since you want to cancel the (n+2)! in the numerator.

Generally, you can factor any factorial the way I'll show you, but we'll use (n+3)! as an example: factor out like this, until you can stop to cancel out something in either the numerator or denominator depending on where the larger factorial is:

ex.) (n+3)(n+2)(n+1)(n)(n-1)(n-2)...3(2)(1)
 
You can make life easier on yourself by doing some simplification first, before applying any of the tests. n!/(n + 2)! = n!/[(n + 2)(n + 1)n!] = 1/[(n + 2)(n + 1)], so you series is identically equal to [itex]\sum 2^n/[(n + 2)(n + 1)][/itex],
 
Aaaaahh Fantastic! Thank you guys both so much you've been very helpful to a truly lost cause in Calculus.
 

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