Reference Pin on Differential Amplifier

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the use of a differential amplifier (specifically the amp03) to separate digital and analog ground portions in a circuit. Participants explore the implications of connecting the reference pin to different ground references and the potential effects on signal integrity and noise reduction.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the datasheet for the amp03, particularly regarding the function of the reference pin and its relationship to ground connections.
  • Another participant confirms that connecting the reference pin to digital ground is appropriate if that ground serves as the reference for the A-D converter on the Arduino.
  • A specific signal flow is proposed by a participant, indicating the desired relationship between the analog ground, the amp03, and the Arduino's ground.
  • A concern is raised about the potential issues caused by currents in ground conductors, suggesting that minimizing noise and DC offsets can be achieved by connecting the reference terminal close to the Arduino ground pin.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of the reference pin connection and its implications for the circuit design, but there are nuances regarding the best practices for grounding and noise management that remain open for discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the ground references and the specific configurations of the circuit that have not been fully explored or resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Electronics engineers, hobbyists working with differential amplifiers, and those interested in circuit design involving analog and digital ground separation.

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I want to use a differential amplifier to separate the digital and analog ground portions of a circuit, but am not confident in my understanding of the datasheet of the amps I have on hand (amp03).

http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AMP03.pdf

I think that (looking at page 5), the output of the amp will be referenced to whichever ground I connect to the reference pin (pin #1). Does this make sense? For example, I plan to power the amp from a supply (floating lab supply) referenced to analog ground, but want it's signal to go into an Arduino (powered by a wall wart), so I would connect the reference pin to digital ground in that case.
 
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teroenza said:
so I would connect the reference pin to digital ground in that case.
Yes, if the digital ground on the Arduino is the ground reference for the A-D converter.
 
Thank you. Specifically for my circuit I would like:

signal in wrt analog ground --> [amp03] --> Arduino+A-D (ref. to Ardunio ground) --> [amp03] --> signal wrt analog ground
 
Currents flowing in the ground conductors can be a problem. You can minimise noise and DC offsets by making sure that the reference terminal is attached as close as possible to the Arduino ground pin.
 

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