Relativistic Energy and Lorentz factor

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total energy of one particle in the rest frame of another, given two particles with rest mass m0 approaching each other at equal and opposite velocities. The clue provided indicates that when (v/c)^2 = 0.5, the total energy E equals 3m0c^2, prompting a deeper exploration of the Lorentz factor and velocity transformation. Participants clarify that m0 remains constant while the Lorentz factor changes based on the frame of reference, leading to the need for velocity transformation to find the energy. Ultimately, the correct approach involves using the transformed velocity in the energy equation, confirming that the final expression simplifies to E = 3m0c^2. Understanding these concepts is essential for solving relativistic energy problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


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Two particles of rest mass m0 approach each other with equal and opposite velocity v, in a laboratory frame. What is the total energy of one particle as measured in the rest frame of the other?

But the question gives a clue which reads "if (v/c)^2 = .5, then E = 3m0c^2."

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My current understanding of this question is that the total energy is simply m0c^2 multiplied by the Lorentz factor. Could you explain to me how the clue is relevant?
 
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Maybe the clue is to be used to check your answer for the special case when (v/c)2 = .5
 
When (v/c)^2 = .5 then the equation is just that E = (1.414)(m0c^2). Where did the 3 come from?
 
Kunhee said:

My current understanding of this question is that the total energy is simply m0c^2 multiplied by the Lorentz factor.
Yes
 
Kunhee said:
When (v/c)^2 = .5 then the equation is just that E = (1.414)(m0c^2). Where did the 3 come from?
You are asked to find the energy of one of the particles according to a reference frame moving with the other particle. The statement (v/c)^2 = .5 specifies v for each particle in the lab frame. But you need to work in the frame of one of the particles.
 
It's not a hint per se - it's just providing you with a particular test case to enable you to check if your obtained answer is correct.

What would be a hint is: what is the velocity of the other particle as measured in the rest frame of one of the particles?
 
Oh I see.
Could you help me set up the equation in the particle's frame of reference?

Before I can plug into E = y m0 c^2
I need to find the m0 when the Lorentz factor is applied first because we are
observing it from the frame of the particle?
 
Kunhee said:
Before I can plug into E = y m0 c^2
I need to find the m0 when the Lorentz factor is applied first because we are
observing it from the frame of the particle?
##m_0## is unchanged - it is the rest mass of the particle. What is changed is the Lorentz factor - because the particles move with different velocities in different frames.
 
Does that mean I need to first do velocity transformation
u = (u' + v) / (1 + u'v/c^2)

And use the resulting velocity to plug into
E = y m0 c^2 ?
 
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Yes, that is correct - but it would be good if you try not to view it as doing some stuff and then plugging into a formula, because that often hinders with the understanding of the concepts.
 
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I see. Thank you!
 
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Kunhee said:
During the velocity transformation, the u will depend on u' and v.
But we are given (v/c)^2 only.
Perhaps it would help if you show your final expression for the energy. The transformed velocity ##v'## is a function of ##v##, so your final answer will / should be in terms of ##v##, because well, that is your given initial parameter.
 
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u' = [u - (-u)] / [1 - (u)(-u)/c^2] = 2u / [1+(u/c)^2

Plugging the u' into Lorentz factor for the Energy equation:

E = y m0 c^2 = m0 c^2 / [1 - ( [2u / [1+(u/c)^2] / c )^2] ^ -1/2

And with further simplification I get m0 c^2 / (1/3) = 3

Got it. Thanks!
 
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