Removable Discontinuity of f(x)=(4-x)/(16-x^2)

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removable discontinuity

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the following function
f(x)=(4-x)/(16-x^2) is discontinuous at?

i got at -4 but some of my friends say its 4, -4

how is that possible
 
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Is the function even defined at ##x = \pm 4##?
 
jbunniii said:
Is the function even defined at ##x = \pm 4##?

well that's what u have to find

where is it discontinuous
i have an exam on this but its not clear yet to me
 
houssamxd said:
well that's what u have to find

where is it discontinuous
i have an exam on this but its not clear yet to me
Discontinuous doesn't mean the same thing as undefined. Go back to the definition of continuity: can a function be continuous at a point if it is not defined at that point?
 
houssamxd said:
well basically we just have to use the function and find the points where its disconitinuous
i.e in the graph there is a hole or a jump

check here
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-determine-whether-a-function-is-discontinuo.html
OK, so you said the function is discontinuous at ##x = 4##. Referring to your link, what kind of discontinuity does it have at that point?

For ##x = -4##, what is the value of the denominator at that point?
 
jbunniii said:
OK, so you said the function is discontinuous at ##x = 4##. Referring to your link, what kind of discontinuity does it have at that point?

For ##x = -4##, what is the value of the denominator at that point?
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but if u factorize the denominator and cancel you will only get -4 as a point of discontinuity

try it yourself
 
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Are you saying that the difficulty is that you do not know what "continuous" means? Didn't It occur to you to look up the definition?

A function, f, is continuous at x= a if and only if:
(1) f(a) exists
(2) \lim_{x\to a} f(x) exists
(3) \lim_{x\to a} f(x)= f(a).<br /> <br /> For what values of x is at least one of those NOT true? (Look specifically at (1)!)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Are you saying that the difficulty is that you do not know what "continuous" means? Didn't It occur to you to look up the definition?

A function, f, is continuous at x= a if and only if:
(1) f(a) exists
(2) \lim_{x\to a} f(x) exists
(3) \lim_{x\to a} f(x)= f(a).<br /> <br /> For what values of x is at least one of those NOT true? (Look specifically at (1)!)
<br /> <br /> but if u factorise it and cancel the common <br /> you only get -4 as the point of discontinuity
 
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houssamxd said:
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but if u factorize the denominator and cancel you will only get -4 as a point of discontinuity

try it yourself
Note that
$$\frac{4-x}{16-x^2}$$
and
$$\frac{1}{4+x}$$
are not the same function. They are equal for ##x \neq 4##, but the first function is undefined (hence discontinuous) at ##x=4## whereas the second is defined and continuous at ##x=4##.

Therefore the first function has what kind of discontinuity at ##x=4##?
 
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jbunniii said:
Note that
$$\frac{4-x}{16-x^2}$$
and
$$\frac{1}{4+x}$$
are not the same function. They are equal for ##x \neq 4##, but the first function is undefined (hence discontinuous) at ##x=4## whereas the second is defined and continuous at ##x=4##.

Therefore the first function has what kind of discontinuity at ##x=4##?

i guess it has a removable one right??
 
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houssamxd said:
i guess it has a removable one right??
That's right. After you remove it by canceling the common factor in the numerator and denominator, the result (second function I listed above) is continuous at that point.

Now what about ##x = -4##? You correctly determined that it is discontinuous there. What kind of discontinuity is it?
 
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jbunniii said:
That's right. After you remove it by canceling the common factor in the numerator and denominator, the result (second function I listed above) is continuous at that point.

Now what about ##x = -4##? You correctly determined that it is discontinuous there. What kind of discontinuity is it?

non removable
but do they both count as discontinuities
 
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houssamxd said:
non removable
but do they both count as discontinuities
Sure. A removable discontinuity is still a discontinuity. As your link describes it, you can think of it as a "gap" in the graph of the function at ##x = 4##. You can fill the gap by removing the common factor so the denominator will be defined at ##x=4##.
 
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jbunniii said:
Sure. A removable discontinuity is still a discontinuity. As your link describes it, you can think of it as a "gap" in the graph of the function at ##x = 4##. You can fill the gap by removing the common factor so the denominator will be defined at ##x=4##.

thanx a lot man
i owe you one
wish me luck for tomorrows exam
 
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houssamxd said:
thanx a lot man
i owe you one
wish me luck for tomorrows exam
Absolutely, good luck!
 
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