Resistance Between Two Rectangular Electrodes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the resistance between two rectangular copper plates submerged in water. Participants explore the application of the resistance formula R = (ρ*L)/A, specifically questioning the appropriate area to use in the equation and the conditions under which the formula is valid.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the area A in the resistance formula should be the area of a single copper plate or the sum of both plates, suggesting it might be 1 in2.
  • Another participant confirms that the area should be the cross-sectional area of the conducting path, provided it is uniform along that path.
  • A later post emphasizes that the formula R∝L/A applies only if the water is confined to a rectangular cross-section tube between the electrodes, indicating that in a non-confined scenario, advanced techniques would be necessary to calculate resistance.
  • One participant expresses a desire for a derivation of the resistance formula, indicating curiosity about its foundational principles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the area as the cross-sectional area of the conducting path, but there is disagreement regarding the applicability of the resistance formula in different configurations of water around the electrodes.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the application of the resistance formula, particularly regarding the assumptions of water confinement and uniformity of the cross-sectional area.

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Hello everyone. I have what is probably a relatively simple question. I'm trying to calculate the resistance between two rectangular copper plates submerged in water. I found this thread that briefly discusses it:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ween-two-electrodes-filled-with-water.147144/

The equation:

R = (ρ*L)/A

seems pretty straight forward but I have a question about the area, A. Is the area in the equation the area of a single copper plate, or the sum of both plates?

For instance, if I have two parallel rectangular copper plates each with a surface area facing the other of 1 in2, should I use 1 in2, or 2 in2 in the equation? I'm thinking I should just use 1 in2 but I'm not sure.

Perhaps if someone can share or point me to a derivation of the formula, that would clarify things.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
 
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Vne147 said:
I'm thinking I should just use 1 in2
Yes, provided it is same everywhere along the conducting path. It is the cross sectional area of the conducting path.
 
cnh1995 said:
Yes, provided it is same everywhere along the conducting path. It is the cross sectional area of the conducting path.

Thank you sir. That was my hunch. Just to satisfy my curiosity though, do you know where I can find a derivation?
 
Vne147 said:
Thank you sir. That was my hunch. Just to satisfy my curiosity though, do you know where I can find a derivation?
Resistance of a conductor is directly proportional to the length of the conductor and inversely proportional to its cross sectional area. These are experimentally observed facts (and are intuitive). So, resistivity ρ is simply the proportioality constant in the relation R∝L/A.
You can find this stuff in any college level physics book.
 
Understood. Thanks.
 
The formula R∝L/A only applies if the water is confined to a rectangular cross section tube between the electrodes, the cross section of the tube being the same as the dimensions of the electrodes.

Otherwise, the current in the water will expand outward into a much larger volume of water than would be the case if the water were in the described tube.

In the non-confined case you will need to use advanced techniques to calculate the resistance.

See: http://www.bru.hlphys.jku.at/conf_map/index.html
 

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