Resolving Forces: F/cos(fi) & Ftan(fi) Explained

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The discussion focuses on understanding how vertical and horizontal reaction forces are derived as F/cos(φ) and Ftan(φ). One participant initially confuses the vertical force calculation, mistakenly stating it as Fcos(φ) instead of the correct F/cos(φ). The clarification comes from recognizing that the vertical force relates to the gravitational force G, leading to the equation F = Gcos(φ). The horizontal component is explained as being derived from the vertical force, with the relationship between sine and cosine leading to the conclusion that the horizontal force is Ftan(φ). Ultimately, the participants successfully resolve the confusion surrounding the force components.
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Hi,

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Probably a very easy question but I can't work out how they get the vertical and horizontal reaction forces to be F/cos(fi) and Ftan(fi). Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks
 
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skaboy607 said:
I can't work out how they get the vertical and horizontal reaction forces to be F/cos(fi) and Ftan(fi).

Hi skaboy607! :smile:

(have a phi: φ :wink:)

I assume there's no friction at the top, so taking vertical components (assuming there's no acceleration) should give you an almost-vertical force of F/cosφ :wink:
 
Hi,

Thanks for the phi φ!

When I take vertical forces I get Fcosφ. Not F/cosφ . And I have no idea where the Ftanφ comes from.

Thanks for your help.
 
skaboy607 said:
When I take vertical forces I get Fcosφ. Not F/cosφ

No … if the unknown force is G, vertical components give you F = Gcosφ :wink:
 
oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh. Thanks! Just confused me because they used the same F. Any ideas on the Ftanφ.

Thanks
 
skaboy607 said:
Any ideas on the Ftanφ.

erm … I was going to ask you that! :wink:

(probably got something to do with resolving horizontally :rolleyes:)

(btw, is the bottom fixed?)
 
oh I don't know, it is the horizontal force but how they got to that i don't know. I'm thinking along the lines sin/cos=tan?

Yea point Q doesn't move.
 
Hint: what is the horizontal component of the F/cosφ force?
 
Sorted-think I've got it. Horizontal component of F/cosφ force (F/cosφ)(sinφ) which is equal to Ftanφ!
 
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:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:
 
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