Resonate Frequency of Parallel RLC Circuit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on determining the resonant frequency of a parallel RLC circuit, focusing on the derivation of a specific equation related to the circuit's impedance. Participants engage in exploring the mathematical relationships involved in the problem, including complex numbers and resonance conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation for resonant frequency and expresses difficulty in understanding its derivation.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify the terms involved, correcting an omission in the original equation.
  • Subsequent posts continue to seek clarification on the components of the equation, specifically focusing on the terms that include "j".
  • A later reply indicates that the answer was simpler than initially thought, suggesting that the necessary information was already present but not clearly recognized.
  • Participants discuss the condition for resonance, noting that the imaginary part of the admittance must equal zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the derivation process, as some express continued confusion while others provide corrections and insights. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complete understanding of the derivation.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions and unresolved steps in the mathematical derivation, particularly concerning the relationship between the terms involving "j" and their implications for resonance.

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Homework Statement



Determine the resonant frequency of the circuit in Fig 14.28 (See attached)


Homework Equations



\begin{array}{l}<br /> {\rm{How is }} \to {\omega _0}0.1 - \frac{{2{\omega _0}}}{{4 + 4\omega _0^2}} \\ <br /> {\rm{derived from }} \to j{\omega _0}0.1 + \frac{{2 - j{\omega _0}}}{{4 + 4{\omega ^2}}} \\ <br /> \end{array}

I'm sure this is not difficult but I just can't see it.

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You consider just the two terms with a "j" in them. I've corrected where you omitted a "2".
\begin{array}{l}<br /> {\rm{How is }} \to {\omega _0}0.1 - \frac{{2{\omega _0}}}{{4 + 4\omega _0^2}} \\ <br /> {\rm{derived from }} \to j{\omega}0.1 + \frac{{2 - j{2{\omega} }}}{{4 + 4{\omega ^2}}} \\ <br /> \end{array}
 
Still can't see it.
 
One of the terms with a j in it is jω0.1

What is the other term with a j in it?
 
NascentOxygen said:
One of the terms with a j in it is jω0.1

What is the other term with a j in it?

The other term is -j2w. I still can't see how this helps.
 
p75213 said:
The other term is -j2w. I still can't see how this helps.
That's only the numerator; what is its denominator?
 
How's this? I new it was simple and the answer was already sitting there. It felt a bit like pulling teeth.

Thanks for that.

\begin{array}{l}<br /> \begin{array}{*{20}{c}}<br /> {{\rm{How is}} \to {\omega _0}0.1 - \frac{{2{\omega _0}}}{{4 + 4\omega _0^2}}} \\<br /> {{\rm{derived from}} \to j\omega 0.1 + \frac{{2 - 2j\omega }}{{4 + 4{\omega ^2}}}} \\<br /> \end{array} \\ <br /> {\rm{Answer:}} \\ <br /> {\rm{At resonance }}Im(Y){\rm{ = 0:}} \\ <br /> j{\omega _0}0.1 - \frac{{j{\omega _0}2}}{{4 + 4\omega _0^2}} = 0 \to j\left( {{\omega _0}0.1 - \frac{{{\omega _0}2}}{{4 + 4\omega _0^2}}} \right) = 0 \\ <br /> {\omega _0}0.1 - \frac{{{\omega _0}2}}{{4 + 4\omega _0^2}} = 0 \\ <br /> \end{array}
 

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