Rev/sec necessary to reach 20-g

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The discussion revolves around calculating the necessary revolutions per second to achieve a 20-g acceleration in a physics context. The problem involves centripetal acceleration and the relationship between time period and angular velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the centripetal acceleration formula and question the units used in their calculations, particularly the conversion from feet to meters. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of their results and how to convert time into revolutions per second.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding unit conversions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to express the radius in consistent units and the relationship between time period and frequency.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the radius used in calculations, which was initially given in feet rather than meters. Participants are also grappling with the conversion of time into the frequency of revolutions per second.

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Homework Statement



http://imgur.com/Frn6v

Homework Equations



Ac=((2pi*r/T)^2)/r

Where T is the time period

The Attempt at a Solution



Since a g is 9.8m/s^2

20(9.8)=(4*pi^2*29)/T^2

1144.87/(20(9.8))=5.841

And solved for T getting...

sqrt(5.841)=2.417

The book's answer at the back reads 0.749 revs/sec.

Did I miss something or is there something else I'm supposed to do with the answer? Thank you for your time.
 
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hyde2042 said:

Homework Statement



http://imgur.com/Frn6v


Homework Equations



Ac=((2pi*r/T)^2)/r

Where T is the time period

The Attempt at a Solution



Since a g is 9.8m/s^2

20(9.8)=(4*pi^2*29)/T^2

1144.87/(20(9.8))=5.841

sqrt(5.841)=2.417

THe book's answer at the back reads 0.749 revs/sec.

Did I miss something or is there something else I'm supposed to do with the answer? Thank you for your time.
and solved for T... ending up with

NASA scientists lost Mars probe which crashed into the planet heading for the calculated orbit height. In Their calculation they forgot that our SI units have metres for length, and set the orbital radius at xxx feet, when it should have been xxx metres.


You have used a radius of 29 in your calculation. The radius is 29 feet , NOT 29 metres.

Either express the 29 feet in metres or express g as 32.2 - the feet equivalent of our 9.8 ms-2
 
Thanks for the laugh. It did seem weird reading the word "feet" in my Physics book, but didn't think too much of it.

However, after converting 29 feet to 8.84 meters, and substituting that into the equation I'm getting, after the sqrt, 1.3 for the answer.

Is there something else I may be overlooking?
 
hyde2042 said:
Thanks for the laugh. It did seem weird reading the word "feet" in my Physics book, but didn't think too much of it.

However, after converting 29 feet to 8.84 meters, and substituting that into the equation I'm getting, after the sqrt, 1.3 for the answer.

Is there something else I may be overlooking?

What does you answer of 1.3 mean. An approximate check [like assuming pi = 3 etc] gives an answer very much like that so I am pretty sure it is correct.
Perhaps you have forgotten what quantity you have calculated and what quantity you were asked for.
 
PeterO said:
What does you answer of 1.3 mean. An approximate check [like assuming pi = 3 etc] gives an answer very much like that so I am pretty sure it is correct.
Perhaps you have forgotten what quantity you have calculated.

I'm to be calculating how many revolutions per second are required for a person to feel 20-g of acceleration. I was actually going over the quantities used to see what I was left over with.

Which was 1.3 seconds. But they want the answer in Revolutions per second. I think this is where I'm going wrong as I don't know what to do to make it into rev/sec.
 
hyde2042 said:
I'm to be calculating how many revolutions per second are required for a person to feel 20-g of acceleration. I was actually going over the quantities used to see what I was left over with.

Which was 1.3 seconds. But they want the answer in Revolutions per second. I think this is where I'm going wrong as I don't know what to do to make it into rev/sec.

The unit for revolutions per second is Hz or s-1

so how to you change s to s-1?

if T = 5 seconds, you get 12 per minute or 0.02 Hz
if T = 0.1 you will get 10 per second or 10 Hz

Soooo ...
 

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