How is Work Calculated in Reversible Adiabatic Expansion?

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The discussion focuses on calculating work done during a reversible adiabatic expansion of an ideal gas, specifically deriving the formula W = (P1V1 – P2V2)/(1 ‐ γ). Initial attempts led to W = (P1V1^γ – P2V2^γ) but confusion arose regarding the integration needed to arrive at the correct expression. A suggestion to apply the first law of thermodynamics clarified that since ΔQ = 0, work equals the negative change in internal energy (W = -ΔU). Further guidance involved substituting the ideal gas law and specific heat relationships, ultimately leading to a clearer understanding of the problem. The participant expressed gratitude for the simplified explanation that resolved their confusion.
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Homework Statement



I'm in a rutt for a tutorial question:

The question is basically to show that the work done during a reversible adiabatic expansion of an ideal gas is

W = (P1V1 – P2V2)/(1 ‐ γ) ... Y is gamma

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I've got so far as to get W= (P1V1^γ – P2V2^γ)
due to P1V1^γ being constant for a reversible adiabat
also that W= -PdV

But i haven't a clue how to get the 1-Y at the bottom, me thinks its intergrating for V to get this but my maths is very bad so i don't know how to do this.
 
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tensus2000 said:

Homework Statement



I'm in a rutt for a tutorial question:

The question is basically to show that the work done during a reversible adiabatic expansion of an ideal gas is

W = (P1V1 – P2V2)/(1 ‐ γ) ... Y is gamma

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I've got so far as to get W= (P1V1^γ – P2V2^γ)
due to P1V1^γ being constant for a reversible adiabat
also that W= -PdV

But i haven't a clue how to get the 1-Y at the bottom, me thinks its intergrating for V to get this but my maths is very bad so i don't know how to do this.
Apply the first law: \Delta Q = \Delta U + W.

Since \Delta Q = 0 and \Delta U = nC_v\Delta T where C_v = R/(\gamma - 1) you should be able to work it out quickly. (Hint: apply the ideal gas law: PV=nRT).

AM
 
still lost
 
tensus2000 said:
still lost

\Delta Q = \Delta U + W = 0

(1) \therefore W = - \Delta U


Now:

(2) \Delta U = nC_v\Delta T and

C_v = C_p/\gamma = (C_v+R)/\gamma so:

(3) C_v = R/(\gamma-1)

Substitute (3) into (2) and then just substitute PV for nRT

AM
 
Cheers, i got it
The way you showed was much easier then the way i was going about it
 
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