Rocket from troposphere - Why not?

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Helium balloons are not commonly used to carry rockets to the troposphere due to the limited fuel savings of about 1-2% and the challenges of launching large rockets reliably from a balloon. While reaching a height of 25km could reduce atmospheric drag, the complexities of managing a massive balloon and the required launch dynamics pose significant drawbacks. Additionally, achieving orbital velocity of approximately 8km/s remains a critical factor, making the overall energy savings minimal. There are hypothetical concepts for static structures to reach around 20km, but these are not practical for current launches. The discussion highlights the technical hurdles that outweigh the potential benefits of using helium balloons for rocket launches.
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Why aren't helium balloons used to carry rockets or payloads to the troposphere which is about 25km above sea level before they are launched?

To reach actual outer space is 100km above sea level. The above will in turn save 25km worth of fuel and the overall mass of the rocket which needs to be pushed would also decrease.

Why isn't this done in launches?
 
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If you want to reach space, you usually want to reach an orbit, which requires a speed of roughly ~8km/s. This is the tricky part - the height is quite "easy" to reach. In terms of the total energy, you can save something like ~1-2%, so you still need a massive rocket. And how do you launch such a massive rocket in a reliable way from a balloon?
This launch would reduce atmospheric drag significantly, but the tricky launch situation and the required gigantic balloon are a big downside.

There is some concept to reach a height of ~20km with a static structure, but it is purely hypothetical.
 
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Why aren't helium balloons used to carry rockets or payloads to the troposphere which is about 25km above sea level before they are launched?

To reach actual outer space is 100km above sea level. The above will in turn save 25km worth of fuel and the overall mass of the rocket which needs to be pushed would also decrease.

Why isn't this done in launches?

This was already discussed in this forum this month:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=658399

If after reading that thread you still have questions, please post in that thread for continuity.
 
Due to the constant never ending supply of "cool stuff" happening in Aerospace these days I'm creating this thread to consolidate posts every time something new comes along. Please feel free to add random information if its relevant. So to start things off here is the SpaceX Dragon launch coming up shortly, I'll be following up afterwards to see how it all goes. :smile: https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacex/
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