Rod with current and magnetic field

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a rod with mass and radius that rolls along parallel rails while carrying a current in the presence of a magnetic field. The objective is to determine the speed of the rod as it exits the rails, starting from rest.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using both force and torque to analyze the motion of the rod. There is an exploration of relating torque to the velocity of the rod and the use of energy conservation principles to derive the speed.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using work-energy principles, while others are verifying calculations and questioning the role of the rod's radius in the final expression for speed. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the rod's moment of inertia and angular velocity in their calculations, as well as the relationship between linear and rotational motion in this context.

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Homework Statement


A rod of mass m and radius R rests on two parallel rails that are a distance d apart and have a length L. The rod carries a current I and rolls along the rails without slipping. A uniform magnetic field B is directed perpendicular to the road and the rails, pointing downwards. If it starts from rest, what is the speed of the rod as it leaves the rails.


Homework Equations


(1) F = I L x B = ma
(2) torque = r x F


The Attempt at a Solution


By subbing in the given constants into (1), I get a = IdB/m. However, I think that I need to use equation 2 instead. I am wondering how to relate the torque on the rod to the velocity of the rod. I don't think the the acceleration I got applies to the rod, because it receives its motion due to torque, rather than just the magnetic force.

Thanks for any help!
 
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It could be done with force and torque, but I think the easier way is to
- calculate the force on the rod and work done over the distance L
- work = linear kinetic energy + rotational energy
- solve for v, which will appear in both energy terms
 
ok, let me see if i got it straight:

W = Krotational + Ktranslational = 1/2Iw^2 + 1/2mv^2 = 1/2(1/2mR^2)(v/R)^2 + 1/2mv^2 = 3/4mv^2
and
W = F * d = (IdB)(L)
so
3/4mv^2 = IdBL
v = 2/sqrt(3) sqrt(IdBL/m)
now my question is, why doesn't the radius of the rod, R, matter? did i use the right moment of inertia and angular velocity?
 
It looks correct to me. The calculation itself "explains" why R doesn't appear in the answer I guess. A wee bit surprising, though.
 
Interesting. Thanks for all your help!
 
Most welcome.
 

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