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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a roller coaster car, focusing on gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and the work-energy theorem. The scenario includes calculations related to energy at different points on the track, with an emphasis on the effects of friction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to compute gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy at various points, applying the work-energy theorem to analyze the effects of friction. Some participants question the accuracy of the calculations and seek verification of the results.

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Participants are engaged in verifying calculations and discussing the application of the work-energy theorem. There is a request for guidance on how to approach part d, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem.

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Assumptions include a frictionless track for initial calculations, with later recognition that friction affects the speed of the car at point B. The discussion highlights the need to reconcile theoretical calculations with measured values.

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Homework Statement



The figure shows a roller coaster car mass m= 3,000kg, on a portion of a roller coaster ride. The height difference between points A and B is 35m. The height difference between B and C is 23m. The car starts from rest at point A. Take y=0 point to be point B. For parts a.,b., and c., assume that the roller coaster track is frictionless.



Homework Equations


a.) Compute the gravitational potential energy of the car at points A, B, and C.
b.) Compute the kinetic energy of the car at point B. Compute its speed there. What physical principle did you use to do this calculation?
c.) compute the kinetic energy and speed of the car at point C.
d.) Parts a., b., and c. assume that the track is frictionless. However, the measured speed of the car at point B is found to be V=20m/s. This is less than the speed that you should have computed in part b. This means that friction cannot be neglected. In this case, how much work is done by friction when the car moves from point A to point B? What physical principle did you use to compute this work?



The Attempt at a Solution



a.) gravitational potential energy =m*g*h

Point A= 3000*9.8*35= 1.029E+6J

Point B= 3000*9.8*0= 0J

Point C= 3000*9.8*23= 676,200J

b.) E=(1/2)m*v^2+m*g*h+(1/2)kx^2

At point A, there is no kinetic energy and no elastic energy
At point B, there is no gravitational potential energy or elastic energy
And since Ea=Eb
m*g*h=(1/2)m*v^2

Vb=26.19 m/s

KE=(1/2)m*v^2
KE= 1.029E+6J, same as the gravitational potential energy at point A.

C.) There is gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy at point C, so:

(1/2)m*v^2=(1/2)m*v^2+m*g*h

Vc= 15.34 m/s

KE= 352,973 J

d.) I wanted to make sure I was doing everything right before I go on lol. Can anyone verify my answers thus far?
 
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Everything seems correct to me. At least, the equations are.. :wink:
Didn't do the calculations but I reckon you're right.
 
Okay thanks! Could you possibly push me in the right direction on how to approach part d?
 
d) Hint: What does the work-energy theorem say?
 
Work-energy theorem:

W=f*d*cos(theta)

and

W= KE final- KE initial

so:

(1/2)*3000*(26.19)^2- (1/2)* 3000*(20)^2 = 428,874J

Is that right?
 
anyone?
 

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