Rotation of a block when not in equilibrium

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The discussion centers on the conditions for a block's equilibrium on a surface and the mechanics of its rotation when that equilibrium is disrupted. Equilibrium occurs when the vertical line through the center of mass (CM) is within the base of the block. When this condition fails, the weight and normal force create a torque that causes the block to rotate, typically about a pivot point, which can be either point A or point B. The conversation raises questions about the mechanics of rotation, specifically regarding the forces acting on the block and the implications for the CM's vertical height during rotation. Ultimately, the dynamics of the forces and the block's constraints dictate its rotational behavior.
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Homework Statement


Consider a block placed on a surface, in two different configuration, a and b. Explain the condition for which the mass is in equilibrium and describe qualitatively the rotation it follows when it falls.

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Homework Equations


Center of mass theorem \sum F = M a_{cm}

The Attempt at a Solution


Of course the condition for the equilibrium is that the vertical line passing through the CM is inside the basis of the mass (situation a). In both the situation the weight P equals the normal reaction force in magnitude R, but when the condition of equilibrium is not satisfied, weight P and the normal reaction force R becomes a force couple and they exert a torque, which makes the block rotate. The problem is: about which point does it rotate? On my book it says that the rotation is about point B but I don't see how can this be possible, since, as said before, P=R, so \sum F=0=M a_{cm}. The center of mass does not accelerate, while it should do if the block would rotate about B (centripetal acceleration would be needed in that case). How can that be?
 
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Soren4 said:
In both the situation the weight P equals the normal reaction force in magnitude R
If this were to remain true in case B as the block rotates, would the CM ever change its vertical height?

The problem is: about which point does it rotate? On my book it says that the rotation is about point B but I don't see how can this be possible,
If the block is to rotate about B, what other force besides R and P must act on the block?
 
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Soren4 said:
On my book it says that the rotation is about point B but I don't see how can this be possible.

Unless you lift the block off the ground, it can only rotate about point A or point B. That's a physical constraint. Imagine trying to move a wardrobe: it can only rotate about those two points and/or slide along the ground.

If you push from the right, it will rotate about A; and, if you push from the left it will rotate about point B.
 
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TSny said:
If this were to remain true in case B as the block rotates, would the CM ever change its vertical height
Moreover, even before it starts to rotate they cannot be equal.
 
Right, the instant it is released the normal force decreases.
 
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