Sealing Solutions for Rotating Overlapping Cylinders in Water Applications

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The discussion revolves around sealing solutions for two overlapping metal cylinders designed to function as a valve in a water application. Participants explore options for preventing water leakage between the cylinders while allowing for rotation, considering various sealing methods and mechanical arrangements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about seals that can prevent water leakage while allowing rotation between two overlapping cylinders.
  • Some participants suggest using O-rings as a potential sealing solution.
  • There is a question regarding how to secure the O-ring in place to ensure a tight overlap between the cylinders.
  • Another participant proposes increasing the gap at the bottom of the cylinders to accommodate an O-ring without hindering rotation.
  • One participant requests a sketch or basic dimensions to better understand the assembly and sealing requirements.
  • A suggestion is made to use a small diameter drive shaft with two O-rings spaced apart and a drain point between them for effective sealing.
  • It is mentioned that positioning the drive gear above the drums may reduce the need for sealing, potentially simplifying the design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best sealing solution, and multiple approaches are being considered, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of ideas.

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Limitations include the lack of specific dimensions and detailed engineering drawings, which may affect the feasibility of proposed solutions.

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I'm trying to make two metal cylinders which will overlap to act as a valve for the outer cylinder to rotate around the other. I need to be able to stop water from the reservoir around the outer cylinder from leaking down between the plates and into the gap for the gear which will give the rotation. Is there a seal I can use either between the cylinders or for the gap left for the gear, which will allow rotation in the fit but won't let water through?

Thanks.
 
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Nidum said:
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Thanks.

How would I hold it in place. I want the cylinders to overlap tightly, should I put the two cylinders on top of the seal, then fix it to them somehow?
 
Maybe I could make the gap between them bigger at the bottom to fit an O seal in, if its the case that this won't prevent the rotation.
 
Post a sketch of what you have . Show some basic dimensions .
 
Just to give you the general idea : https://www.eriks.co.uk/image-bank/images/storage/3730_O-ring_selector_lrg.jpg
 
Nidum said:
Post a sketch of what you have . Show some basic dimensions .

I don't have any dimensions yet. Should I put an o ring in the gap between the outer and inner plate, then around the outer plate at the bottom, so water doesn't leek out?
 

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There is not enough information in your sketch for me to really understand what you are doing .

If you would like to post a proper engineering drawing of your assembly then we can discuss this problem in more detail .

Couple of suggestions pro tem :

Ideally use a small diameter drive shaft for the moving drum and arrange two O rings spaced a short distance apart and with a drain point between the two rings .

In this sort of project it is often a good idea to arrange all the drive gear above the drums rather than below - that way you may only need minimal sealing or perhaps none at all .
 

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