Second derivative using implicit differentiation

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The discussion focuses on finding the second derivative, y'', of the implicit function defined by the equation x6 + y6 = -6. The solution involves using implicit differentiation to derive the first derivative, dy/dx = -x5/y5, and then applying the product rule and quotient rule to find y''. The final result is established as y'' = 30x4/y11, confirming the correctness of the derivation process.

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Homework Statement



x^6 + y^6 = -6

I have to prove that y'' = 30x^4/y^11

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The Attempt at a Solution



Using implicit differentiation:

6x^5 + 6y^5 dy/dx = 0
6y^5 dy/dx = -6x^5
dy/dx = -x^5/y^5

Quotient Rule:

[(y^5)(-5x^4) - (-x^5)(5y^4 dy/dx)] / (y^5)^2
[-5x^4 y^5 + (x^5) 5y^4 dy/dx] / (y^5)^2

This is where I got stuck.
 
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You can replace dy/dx again, and then simplify a bit.
Also, you lost an equality sign somewhere... that expression on the last line, what is it equal to again?
 
For me, rather than using the quotient rule, it was easier to do this:

[tex]y^5 \frac{dy}{dx} = -x^5[/tex]

and differentiate this implicitly (using the product rule on the left-hand side). As CompuChip pointed out, you'll have to substitute in the expression for dy/dx, and you also get a handy substitution from the original statement that x^6 + y^6 = -6 .
 

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