Solving Second Diff. Homework: y"(x)

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The discussion revolves around finding the second derivative y''(x) of the function y(x) = exp(-(\sqrt{ms}/2t) x²). The initial attempt at differentiation is presented, but participants emphasize the importance of simplifying expressions to avoid unnecessary complications. They suggest treating constants as single variables to streamline calculations and reduce errors. Clarification is provided that the original poster is seeking the second derivative, not the second differential, and acknowledges that this problem exceeds precalculus level. Overall, the conversation highlights effective strategies for tackling differentiation in complex expressions.
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Homework Statement

y(x) = exp (-(\sqrt{ms}/2t) x^{2})

Find the y"(x)

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y'(x) = (-(\sqrt{ms}/2t) 2x) exp (-(\sqrt{ms}/2t) x^{2})

y"(x) = (-(\sqrt{ms}/t)) exp (-(\sqrt{ms}/2t) x^{2}) + ((ms/4t^{2})4x^{2}) exp (-(\sqrt{ms}/2t) x^{2})This is correct? Sorry if it looks a bit messy... Thanks.
 
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Could you please try to clean up the equation of the problem a little bit? Just for clarification.
 
I hope that makes it easier.
 
theJorge551 said:
Could you please try to clean up the equation of the problem a little bit? Just for clarification.

Jenkz said:
I hope that makes it easier.

I can't see any that yet.

I think Jorge's point is, contrary to what many students imagine, there is no virtue in complicated-looking expressions, in carrying through all unnecessary complication in a problem until, maybe at the end, it matters. You have, if y'(x) means dy/dx, a function of ( x2 multiplied by a constant). You don't need to know how the constant is made up of this, that and the other when you differentiate. So just call it a. Or you can call it -a. Then you can see what you are doing easier and make fewer mistakes.

As you go through phys and math you will see all the time where where where. I.e. w = some function of, say, [au + sin2(bv)] where a and b each = some other jumble of constants stuff (sometimes quite complicated stuff, like 'where a is the solution of this horrible equation' - something you could never carry through with everything explicit all the time). At the end of a calculation you might need to unravel or put back what is in the a and b to see how, e.g. a physical behaviour depends on the parameters inside them.
 
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epenguin said:
I think Jorge's point is, contrary to what many students imagine, there is no virtue in complicated-looking expressions, in carrying through all unnecessary complication in a problem until, maybe at the end, it matters. You have, if y'(x) means dy/dx, a function of ( x2 multiplied by a constant). You don't need to know how the constant is made up of this, that and the other when you differentiate. So just call it a. Or you can call it -a. Then you can see what you are doing easier and make fewer mistakes.
Excellent point. After all, \sqrt{ms}/2t is just a constant as far as differentiation with respect to x is concerned.

BTW, you (the OP) are trying to find the second derivative, not the second differential. Also, this is hardly a precalculus problem.
 
Thank you for the advice.

@Mark44: sorry about that.
 
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