Shear stress, what is a flat tie bar ?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of shear stress in the context of a flat tie bar connected by a lap riveted joint. The original poster seeks clarification on the definition and appearance of a flat tie bar, as well as how to approach a problem involving the calculation of maximum pull based on shear stress limits for rivets.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of a flat tie bar and its characteristics, including its shape and dimensions. There are questions about the relevance of certain assumptions, such as neglecting friction in the lap joint. Some participants also explore how to calculate the area relevant to the shear stress problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing definitions and clarifications about the flat tie bar and the riveted joint. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of shear stress and the importance of the rivets' cross-sectional area, but no consensus has been reached on the specific approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraint of a maximum shear stress of 60 MN/m² for the rivets, and there is uncertainty regarding the correct area to use in calculations. The original poster has expressed difficulty in visualizing the components involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


two lengths of flat tie bar are connected together by a lap riveted joint with three rivets each 10mm in diameter. Calculate the maximum pull that can be applied to the tie-bars if the shear stress in the rivets is not to exceed 60MN/m^2


The Attempt at a Solution



i can't attempt this because i don't know that a flat tie bar is or what it would look like if they were connected together by a lap riveted joint with three rivets...
does anyone know what it is?
 
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scotthands said:
i can't attempt this because i don't know that a flat tie bar is or what it would look like if they were connected together by a lap riveted joint with three rivets...
does anyone know what it is?

This is a tie bar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tieslide.jpg
 
Well a flat tie bar is flat strip of metal, usually uniform thickness with a rectangular cross-section - basically looks like a ruler, but thicker. The two bars are overlapped and held together by 3 rivets. However that is irrelevant to this problem.

What is relevant is the fact that there are three rivets, each of 10 mm dia, which will bear the load P to be determined such that the shear force does not exceed 60 MN/m2.

State assumptions, e.g. not credit given to the friction in the lap joint of the lapped tie bars, i.e. one assumes the rivets bear the full load. What else?
 
so have i just to work out P? as in: P=T(tau) * Area
?

if so then I'm not really sure about the area, do i take the 10mm diameter and work out the area that the rivets go through?(or is it the perimeter of the 10mm diameter the hole that the rivets go through?)

thanks for the help.
 
The cross-sectional area of the three rivets will bear the shear stress.

The stress is just the load divided by the area bearing that load (force).

Remember stress, which has the units of pressure (lbf/in2, or MPa), is simply force divided by area, whether it's a tensile, compressive or shear force.
 

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