Shilov's Linear Algebra determinant notation.

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The discussion revolves around the notation used by Georgi Shilov for determinants in his book "Linear Algebra," specifically the interpretation of the notation \(\det ||a_{ij}||\) for an n x n matrix. Participants explore the implications of this notation and its clarity in representing matrices.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether Shilov's notation for the determinant, \(\det ||a_{ij}||\), implies that it should be interpreted as a 1 x 1 matrix or if there is a misunderstanding.
  • Another participant suggests that Shilov's notation is confusing but convenient, indicating that \(\||a_{ij}||\) refers to the entire matrix rather than just a single element.
  • A third participant agrees with the interpretation that \(\||a_{ij}||\) represents the whole matrix, acknowledging the confusion but accepting this understanding.
  • Another viewpoint is presented, stating that while \(a_{ij}\) represents a single element, it is used as a variable that can denote any element in the matrix, similar to how a variable can represent multiple values in set notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Shilov's notation is confusing and that it can be interpreted as referring to the entire matrix. However, there is no consensus on whether this notation is appropriate or if it constitutes an abuse of mathematical notation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the clarity and appropriateness of Shilov's notation, as well as the implications of using a single variable to represent multiple elements in the context of matrices.

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I just started reading the first chapter of Georgi Shilov's "Linear Algebra" and I have a question about his notation for determinants. His notation, (7), for the determinant of an n x n matrix seems to be [tex]\det ||a_{ij}||.[/tex]

(4) suggests Shilov would write the 1 x 1 matrix with the single element x as [tex]||x||.[/tex] So in (7), does Shilov mean for [tex]||a_{ij}||[/tex] to be interpreted as a 1 x 1 matrix or am I missing something?(4) and (7) can be found by googling for "Shilov determinant."
 
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I think your problem is very easily solved. His notation is lousy.

By ||a_ij|| he just means the whole matrix consisting of the components a_ij, where a_ij is the single component on the ith row and jth column. This is confusing, but also conevenient if you do not want to spell out the entire matrix.

So strictly speaking, yes you're right it is a 1x1 matrix. But what he abuses the notation slightly for convenience.
 
jacobrhcp said:
By ||a_ij|| he just means the whole matrix consisting of the components a_ij, where a_ij is the single component on the ith row and jth column. This is confusing, but also conevenient if you do not want to spell out the entire matrix.

That sounds like an interpretation I can live with. Thanks for taking the time to clarify his notation!
 
I believe that "det||a_ij||" is referring to the determinant of the matrix, ||a_ij||, where i and j are variables representing the index of any row and column, respectively, and 'a' represents any element in the matrix at that row/column location. So, while a_ij can only take the value of one element at a time, this is not a matrix of just one element--he is just using one variable that can represent any element in the matrix.

This is similar to describing a set:
{x such that x is even} (for x in the set of integers)

Even though I used one variable, x, that doesn't mean my set consists of just one element, since x represents any even integer here, and thus my set contains all even integers.
 

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