SHOW: x(at) is a periodic signal with period T/a (a>0)

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The discussion focuses on proving that if x(t) is a periodic signal with period T, then x(at) is periodic with period T/a for a > 0, and x(t/b) is periodic with period bT for b > 0. Participants emphasize the importance of not assuming periodicity in the initial steps but rather proving it through the definitions provided. The hint suggests defining x_a(t) and x_b(t) to facilitate the proof. The verification of the periodicity condition leads to agreement on the correctness of the approach, despite initial confusion about assumptions. Overall, the thread effectively clarifies the proof process for periodic signals under transformation.
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Homework Statement



If x(t) is a periodic signal with period T, show that x(at), a > 0, is a periodic signal with period \frac{T}{a}, and x\left(\frac{t}{b}\right), b > 0, is a periodic signal with period bT.



Homework Equations


HINT: Define x_a(t)\,=\,x(at) and x_b(t)\,=\,x\left(\frac{t}{b}\right). Show that x_a\left(t\,+\,T_a\right)\,=\,x_a(t)\,\forall\,t\,\in\,\mathbb{R} and x_b\left(t\,+\,T_b\right)\,=\,x_b(t)\,\forall\,t\,\in\,\mathbb{R}, where T_a\,=\,\frac{T}{a} and T_b\,=\,bT.


The Attempt at a Solution



I take the hint, and define

x_a(t)\,=\,x(at)

Now, I assume that x_a(t) is periodic, with a period \frac{T}{a}

x_a(t)\,=\,x_a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)

x_a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)\,=\,x\left[a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)\right]\,=\,x\left(at\,+\,T\right)

\therefore\,x_a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)\,=\,x_a(t)\,\forall\,t\,\in\,\mathbb{R}


Does this seem right?
 
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VinnyCee said:

Homework Statement



If x(t) is a periodic signal with period T, show that x(at), a > 0, is a periodic signal with period \frac{T}{a}, and x\left(\frac{t}{b}\right), b > 0, is a periodic signal with period bT.



Homework Equations


HINT: Define x_a(t)\,=\,x(at) and x_b(t)\,=\,x\left(\frac{t}{b}\right). Show that x_a\left(t\,+\,T_a\right)\,=\,x_a(t)\,\forall\,t\,\in\,\mathbb{R} and x_b\left(t\,+\,T_b\right)\,=\,x_b(t)\,\forall\,t\,\in\,\mathbb{R}, where T_a\,=\,\frac{T}{a} and T_b\,=\,bT.


The Attempt at a Solution



I take the hint, and define

x_a(t)\,=\,x(at)

Now, I assume that x_a(t) is periodic, with a period \frac{T}{a}
You can't assume that- that's what you are trying to prove!

x_a(t)\,=\,x_a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)

But from here on you are okay. You aren't using "x_a(t)= x_a(t + T/a)" you are using a(x+ T)= a(x) which is your hypothesis.

x_a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)\,=\,x\left[a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)\right]\,=\,x\left(at\,+\,T\right)

\therefore\,x_a\left(t\,+\,\frac{T}{a}\right)\,=\,x_a(t)\,\forall\,t\,\in\,\mathbb{R}


Does this seem right?
 
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