Simple Harmonic Motion Equilibrium

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of equilibrium in simple harmonic motion, specifically regarding a mass hanging from a spring and the effects of applying an external force on the mass. Participants explore whether applying a downward force alters the equilibrium position of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if applying a downward force on a mass affects its equilibrium position.
  • Another participant suggests that if the force is applied continuously, it would result in a new equilibrium point due to the additional downward force.
  • A third participant revises their earlier response, indicating that applying a force by pushing down on the mass does not change the equilibrium point, but rather adds energy to the system.
  • Subsequent replies confirm the clarification regarding the nature of the force applied.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether applying a force changes the equilibrium position, as participants present differing views on the nature of the force and its effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of applying a force versus adding energy to the system, and the definitions of equilibrium in this context remain somewhat ambiguous.

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I am a little confused with this subject. If you have a mass hanging from a spring, there is a specific equilibrium point, but what if you apply a force downwards on the mass, will this have an effect on the equilibrium position or will it remain the same?

thanks!
 
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If the force is applied continuously, it would be added to the current downward force of the mass, and (Edit) the system would establish a new equilibrium point. Is that what you meant?
 
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My first reply was poor to incorrect. I think when you said apply a force, you meant adding energy to the system, like pushing down on the mass. That would not change the equilibrium point. Sorry for being too hasty.:blushing:
 
yes that is what I meant, thanks!
 
genevievelily said:
yes that is what I meant, thanks!

My post #3 crossed paths with your reply at about the same time. Please read!
 
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