Simple Harmonic Motion (Mass on a Spring)

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving simple harmonic motion, specifically a solid cylinder attached to a massless spring. The scenario includes calculating the translational and rotational kinetic energy of the cylinder as it moves through the equilibrium position after being released from a stretched position.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for translational energy but struggles with incorporating the mass and the radius of the cylinder into their calculations. They also express frustration over the lack of useful parameters from example problems.
  • Some participants suggest that the radius is not necessary for the calculations and provide insights into the relationship between the energies involved in the system.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the origin of the formulas used for translational and rotational energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the relationships between the energies and addressing the original poster's concerns. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the formulas and their derivations, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a lack of certain parameters, such as the radius of the cylinder, which they feel is essential for their calculations. This constraint is acknowledged but not resolved within the discussion.

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[SOLVED] Simple Harmonic Motion (Mass on a Spring)

Homework Statement


A solid cylinder of mass M= 10.8 kg is attached to a horizontal massless spring so that it can roll without slipping along a horizontal surface, as shown in the Figure. The force constant of the spring is k= 346 N/m. The system is released from rest at a position in which the spring is stretched by a distance x= 17.0 cm. What is the translational kinetic energy of the cylinder when it passes through the equilibrium position? What about the rotational KE?

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Homework Equations


Translational Energy-.5mv^2
Rotational Energy- .5Iw^2
Angular Velocity (spring)- sqrt(k/m)

The Attempt at a Solution



Alright... I only have this problem left and it's frustrating me. For the first part, I used translational Energy for a spring (.5kx^2), but I am not taking the mass into account. All the example problems we were given have amplitudes and other useful things to use to compute velocity. So, I moved onto what I thought would be the easier one, rotational. For this, I tried using .5(r^2)(k) when I realized, much to my dismay, that I had no radius for the cylinder. Any alternative ways I am not thinking of? Thanks so much.
 
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You actually don't need radius of cylinder. At the beginning you have just energy of spring
0.5kx^2 , that equals sum of rotational and translational energy in equilibrium position. The you should know that

\omega =v/r ~,~E_t=0.5mv^2~,~E_r=0.5I~\omega^2

Now since I for cylinder is 0.5mr^2 , r falls out. You have only equation for v then.
 
Thank you very much!
 


Can someone please explain to me where the formulas are coming from for translational energy, etc?
 

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