Simple Harmonic Motion of an earthquake

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The problem involves analyzing the simple harmonic motion of a car's suspension system during an earthquake, specifically focusing on the effects of added mass when occupants exit the vehicle. The context includes the mass of the car and its passengers, the frequency of the earthquake, and the resulting oscillations.

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  • Participants discuss the total mass involved and the calculation of the period and spring constant. There are attempts to apply formulas related to harmonic motion, and questions arise regarding the correct application of these equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the relationships between frequency, mass, and spring constant. There is acknowledgment of errors in calculations and clarifications regarding the equations used. The discussion has led to a more refined understanding of the problem, with some participants confirming their results.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of formulas and the interpretation of variables, particularly concerning the spring constant and the effects of added mass. Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, without additional information.

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[SOLVED] Simple Harmonic Motion

Homework Statement



Four people, each with mass of 71.1 kg, are in a car with a mass of 1180 kg. An earthquake strikes. The vertical oscillations of the ground surface make the car bounce up and down on its suspension springs, but the driver manages to pull of the road and stop. When the frequency of the shaking is 1.60 Hz, the car exhibits a maximum amplitude of vibration. The earthquake ends and the four people leave the car as fast as they can. By what distance does the car's undamaged suspension lift the car's body as the people get out?

Homework Equations



x=Acos(wt+phi)
T=1/f
w=sqrt(k/m)
T=2pi/w
or 2pisqrt(k/m)
k= 4pi^2m/T^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I have notice that mass must be all added to together to give a total mass of 1446.4 kg. Then I found the period by T= 1/f=1/1.60=0.625s or is it T= 2pi/w= 2pi/1.60=3.93s, ^anyway from that i used K=4pi^2m/T^2 to come up with k constant k=4pi^2(1446.4)/(0.625)^2= 147999 n/m , i don't know soemthing tells me I am not doing this right i don't how i could go about getting the postion. can someone help me out?
 
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(w means omega.)

When the driving frequency was f=1.6 Hz, there was resonance, which means w^2= k/m => (2*pi*f)^2 = k/M, where M = mass of car+men.

delta_F = k*delta_x => Mg - weight of men = delta_x, which is what you want.
 
hmm some calculations i did from this were w^2=k/m (2*pi*1.6)^2=k/1464.4= 147992.264 K= 101.06*1464.4= 147992.264 n/m ok now i tired your equation delta_F=k*delta_x=> Mg-weight of men= delta_x so (1464.4)(9.80)-(71.1*4)= delta x= 14066.72 this was wrong. I also notice what happen to k?
 
What happened to k was a typo: it should be k*delta_x.

Let's go through the logic once more. The natural frequency of the loaded car must be f =1.6 Hz. That gives us
(2*pi*f)^2 = k/(M+m), where m is the sum of the masses of the four men.

Suppose x1 is the compression when the load is M+m, and x2 when load is M. Then,
(M+m)g – mg = k(x2-x1) => Mg = k*delta_x => delta_x = Mg/[(M+m)(2*pi*f)^2].

(In my last post, I wrote (Mg - wt of men) by mistake.)

I get delta_x as 0.078 m.
 
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thanks man that was right. i got same thing :). I appreicate the help.
 

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