Simple Harmonic Oscillator: From Hooke's Law to Harmonious Motion

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The discussion focuses on deriving simple harmonic motion (SHM) from Hooke's Law, starting with the force equation F = -kx and leading to the differential equation m(d²x/dt²) = -kx. The user attempts to solve this equation but struggles with integrating and correctly applying the exponential function, leading to confusion about the appearance of the imaginary unit 'i' in the solution. They acknowledge that the standard approach often involves assuming a solution of the form a cos(ωt) or sin(ωt) for the second-order differential equation. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in integrating and understanding the roots of the characteristic equation to arrive at the correct general solution for SHM.
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Homework Statement



Show simple harmonic motion starting from Hooke's Law.


The Attempt at a Solution



F=-kx

=m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}=-kx

\frac{1}{x}\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}=-\frac{k}{m}

=\frac{1}{x}\frac{d}{dt}\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{k}{m}

\int\int\frac{1}{x}d\left(dx\right)=-\frac{k}{m}\int dt\int dt

\int\frac{1}{x}dx=-\frac{k}{2m}t^2

\ln\left(x\right)=-\frac{k}{2m}t^2

x\left(t\right)=e^{-\frac{k}{2m}t^2}

But it should be:

x\left(t\right)=e^{-i\sqrt{\frac{k}{2m}}t}

I thought I knew how to do this. :redface:
 
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Well normally you could just put F=ma and then put it the form a= - \omega^2 x and that would be sufficient to show SHM.


Else to solve the DE, you would need to know that the equation y''+ky=0 has solutions y1=cos(kt) and y2=sin(kt)
 
I want to solve the differential equation. But as you can see, somewhere I need to take the square root of the exponential argument.

Where, in my steps, did I miss that?
 
Nobody knows?
 
I don't see how to use this to get to the right answer, but:

\int\frac{1}{x}dx \neq \ln (x)

\int\frac{1}{x}dx = \ln |x| + C

So the derivation would continue:

\ln |x| + C =-\frac{k}{2m}t^2

|x| = e^{-\frac{k}{2m}t^2 + C}

Like I said, not sure how to use this, or if it helps. I could see squaring x, then taking the square root, in lieu of the absolute value signs, but, then, I don't see where the i comes out. Most of the derivations I've seen 'guess' at the solution of the 2nd order DE to be of the form a cos(\omega t), and go from there.

I'm going to look at this more tomorrow, I can't believe I don't know either.
 
dotman said:
I'm going to look at this more tomorrow, I can't believe I don't know either.


m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}=-kx \Rightarrow \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+\frac{k}{m}x=0


the auxiliary equation is r2+(k/m)=0 so r=±√(k/m)i

when you have roots in the form r=λ±μi what is the general solution x(t) equal to?
 
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