Simplify the following problem with exponents

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The problem involves simplifying an expression with exponents: ((64m^-36)(n^-15)(p^9)) ^ (2/3). Participants are tasked with expressing the final answer using positive exponents.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of exponent rules, particularly how to handle the power outside the expression and the treatment of negative exponents. Some express confusion about simplifying the expression and converting negative exponents to positive ones.

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There is ongoing clarification regarding the application of exponent rules. Some participants provide guidance on how to separate terms and apply the exponent to each component. Multiple interpretations of the simplification process are being explored, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of exponent rules and the requirement to express all exponents positively. There are indications of confusion regarding the initial setup and the simplification steps taken.

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Homework Statement


Simplify. Express final answers with positive exponents.

((64m^-36)(n^-15)(p^9)) ^ (2/3)

Homework Equations


[tex]\sqrt[3]{}[/tex] ((64m^-36)(n^-15)(p^9)) ^ 2


The Attempt at a Solution



((4m^-36)(n^-15)(p^9))^2
= (16m^-36)(n^-15)(p^9)

= 1/(16m^36)(n^15)(p^-9)

I can't seem to rid the negative exponents. It would be amazing if someone could find me a page which shows the laws and helps me with this kinda stuff. thanks.
 
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ok you have the wrong idea of how the power outside the entire expression works.

[tex](ab)^n=a^nb^n[/tex]

So: [tex][(64m^{-36})(n^{-15})(p^9)]^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]
becomes
[tex](64m^{-36})^{\frac{2}{3}}(n^{-15})^{\frac{2}{3}}(p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]

and remember the rule must be applied again for each part.
It works like this:
[tex](ab^x)^n=a^nb^{xn}[/tex]

As for making all the exponents positive, you don't need to take all the terms into the denominator. For the 3 pronumerals in the question, you only need to take 2 pronumerals and you are allowed to do that.

e.g. [tex]a^xb^{-x}c^{-y}=\frac{a^x}{b^xc^y}[/tex]
 


Mentallic said:
ok you have the wrong idea of how the power outside the entire expression works.

[tex](ab)^n=a^nb^n[/tex]

So: [tex][(64m^{-36})(n^{-15})(p^9)]^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]
becomes
[tex](64m^{-36})^{\frac{2}{3}}(n^{-15})^{\frac{2}{3}}(p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]

and remember the rule must be applied again for each part.
It works like this:
[tex](ab^x)^n=a^nb^{xn}[/tex]

As for making all the exponents positive, you don't need to take all the terms into the denominator. For the 3 pronumerals in the question, you only need to take 2 pronumerals and you are allowed to do that.

e.g. [tex]a^xb^{-x}c^{-y}=\frac{a^x}{b^xc^y}[/tex]

I guess I wrote it wrong, but it's [tex](64m^{-36}n^{-15}p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]
 


TayTayDatDude said:
I guess I wrote it wrong, but it's [tex](64m^{-36}n^{-15}p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]

Also, would [tex]{(-2x^{-3}y)(-12x^{-4}y^{-2}) / {6xy^{-3}}[/tex]

= [tex]1/4x^{-6}y^2[/tex]

If so, how do I make the exponents positive??
 


TayTayDatDude said:
Also, would [tex]{(-2x^{-3}y)(-12x^{-4}y^{-2}) / {6xy^{-3}}[/tex]

= [tex]1/4x^{-6}y^2[/tex]

If so, how do I make the exponents positive??
No.
In the numerator you have (-2)(-12) = 24, and in the denominator you have 6. You should get 24/6 = 4, not 1/4 for the numeric coefficient.

The exponent on x is -3 + (-4) - 1 = -8.
The exponent on y is 2.
To make an exponent positive, replace the exponential factor by its reciprocal. For example, 2x^(-2) = 2*(1/x^2) = 2/(x^2).
 


Mentallic said:
ok you have the wrong idea of how the power outside the entire expression works.

[tex](ab)^n=a^nb^n[/tex]

So: [tex][(64m^{-36})(n^{-15})(p^9)]^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]
becomes
[tex](64m^{-36})^{\frac{2}{3}}(n^{-15})^{\frac{2}{3}}(p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]

and remember the rule must be applied again for each part.
It works like this:
[tex](ab^x)^n=a^nb^{xn}[/tex]

As for making all the exponents positive, you don't need to take all the terms into the denominator. For the 3 pronumerals in the question, you only need to take 2 pronumerals and you are allowed to do that.

e.g. [tex]a^xb^{-x}c^{-y}=\frac{a^x}{b^xc^y}[/tex]

I got p^18/16m^72n^30

Is it right? :)
 


Not even close.
You started with [tex](64m^{-36}n^{-15}p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]
That's going to be [tex]64^{2/3}m^{-36 * 2/3}n^{-15*2/3}p^{9*2/3}[/tex]

For now, simplify 64^(2/3), which is the same as the cube root of 64, squared, and get exponents on the variables that are integers.

After you do that, any variables that have negative exponents can be put in the denominator with positive exponents.
 


TayTayDatDude said:
I guess I wrote it wrong, but it's [tex](64m^{-36}n^{-15}p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]

This is exactly the same as what you posted in your first post. The extra brackets for each pronumeral make no difference.

We have [tex](64m^{-36})^{\frac{2}{3}}(n^{-15})^{\frac{2}{3}}(p^9)^{\frac{2}{3}}[/tex]

Again, use the rule that [tex](a^nb)^x=a^{nx}b^x[/tex]
This must be used for each and every part. See if you can apply this idea to the problem above.
 


I got

(p^6) / (16m^24)(n^10)
 
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Here is the result, step by step:

[tex][(64m^{-36})(n^{-15})(p^9)] ^ {2/3}[/tex]

[tex]64^{2/3}*m^{-24}*n^{-10}*p^6[/tex]

[tex]64=2^6[/tex]

[tex]64^{2/3}=2^{6*2/3}=2^4=16[/tex]

[tex]16*\frac{1}{m^{24}}*\frac{1}{n^{10}}*p^6[/tex]

[tex]\frac{16*p^6}{m^{24}*n^{10}}[/tex]

[tex](\frac{4*p^3}{m^{12}*n^{5}})^2[/tex]
 
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Uhm, the last statement does not equal the one above it..
 
  • #12


Sorry, I got problems with LaTeX code, now it is ok. It should be:

[tex](\frac{4*p^3}{m^{12}*n^{5}})^2[/tex]
 
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TayTayDatDude said:
Uhm, the last statement does not equal the one above it..
The last expression (not statement) DOES equal the one above.
 
  • #14


Mark44 said:
The last expression (not statement) DOES equal the one above.

Yes, now it does. Please care to read his edit.
 

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