Simplifying a Rational Function with Intermediate Variables

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a rational function involving intermediate variables. The original poster struggles with the algebra, particularly with the Z variables, and expresses frustration after spending two hours on the problem. Suggestions include using the FOIL method and defining intermediate variables to make the expression easier to manage. A recommendation is made to utilize Wolfram Alpha for step-by-step assistance in solving the equation. Ultimately, the focus is on simplifying the function correctly rather than solving an equation.
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Hi, i have been trying to solve this equation for the past 2 hours but am not getting anywhere near the given answer. If anyone can solve this it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.

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The answer is circled in red and was derived from the line above it. (picture attached)

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Looks like a simple matter to apply FOIL and simplity, with due care in execution.
 
Thats what i did but unfortunately i keep getting different values.
 
show us the steps you take
 
I thought i could start with the easy part the denominator but then i don't know what to do with the Z's and end up as shown in picture, aaa my head hurts lol.
 

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Cosine12 said:
I thought i could start with the easy part the denominator but then i don't know what to do with the Z's and end up as shown in picture, aaa my head hurts lol.
just treat the z's like you would any other variable
 
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Am not getting anywhere with this tbh.. i think il leave this for now as i wasted too much time on it. Thanks for the help anyway.
 
Cosine12 said:
Am not getting anywhere with this tbh.. i think il leave this for now as i wasted too much time on it. Thanks for the help anyway.
as was previously stated use foil...
you should brush up on your algebra
 
My advice would be to sign up for a Wolfram Alpha account.

Its a great resource for helping with such problems.

Enter your equation, and you will get a step-by-step solution.

From there, you will be able to see how to do the algebra.
 
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Cosine12 said:

Homework Statement


Hi, i have been trying to solve this equation for the past 2 hours but am not getting anywhere near the given answer. If anyone can solve this it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.

Homework Equations


The answer is circled in red and was derived from the line above it. (picture attached)

The Attempt at a Solution

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Actually, you're not solving an equation. This is just simplifying the given form for the function.

I suggest that you define some intermediate variables in order to simplify the look of this expression:
Let: ##\ a=e^{-0.1}z^{-1}\ ##, ##\ b=e^{-0.2}z^{-1}\ ##, ##\ c=z^{-1}\ ##.
Multiply the numerator & denominator by 2.​

You get: ##\displaystyle \ \frac{(1-a)(1-b)-2(1-a)(1-c)-(1-c)(1-a)}{2(1-a)(1-b)} \ . ##

Simplify that, then do the reverse substitution.
 

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