Singularities in colliding black holes

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of singularities during the collision of black holes, specifically whether their singularities merge simultaneously with their event horizons or if there is a delay. The conversation touches on theoretical implications, numerical simulations, and the complexities introduced by general relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that there is a lag between the event horizons of colliding black holes touching and the merging of their singularities.
  • One participant notes that during the collision, the event horizons become distorted, suggesting that additional time is required for the singularities to collide.
  • Another participant expresses that the situation may be more complex, referencing the potential for spontaneous singularities to develop during violent processes in general relativity, such as black hole collisions.
  • Concerns are raised about the possibility of encountering more singularities than initially present, including the emergence of naked singularities.
  • Several participants express interest in consulting experts who numerically model black hole mergers to gain insights into the behavior of singularities during these events.
  • A participant shares a reference that may provide additional context or information regarding the topic, although they admit to not having studied it in detail.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is likely a lag between the event horizons touching and the singularities merging, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of this process and the implications of general relativity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of modeling black hole mergers, particularly in asymmetric scenarios, and the potential for unresolved mathematical steps in understanding singularity behavior.

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When two black holes collide, do their singularities merge the instant their event horizons touch? Or is there a lag between the event horizons touching and the singularities merging when there are actually two singularities inside a single black hole?
 
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Yes, there is a lag. Note that during the collision their horizons become distorted.
So yes, it takes additional time for them to collide but I doubt anybody can provide more information without numerical simulations.
 
Jolb said:
When two black holes collide, do their singularities merge the instant their event horizons touch? Or is there a lag between the event horizons touching and the singularities merging when there are actually two singularities inside a single black hole?

My intuition says pretty much the same thing as Dmitry67's. There has to be a lag.

However, I think the answer may be even more complicated. General relativity has a tendency to develop singularities spontaneously any time a sufficiently violent process occurs. For example, there's a broad research program being carried out by many different groups around the world to try to define cosmic censorship rigorously, and determine under what conditions it holds. A collision of two black holes is exactly the kind of violent, highly nonlinear process in GR that they have to worry about. So for instance, I could imagine that when two black holes collide you get more singularities than you started with, maybe some of them naked singularities -- I don't know. Someone who's an expert on this kind of thing could probably say more. I'm sure people have tried hard to model black hole mergers, since they're one of the best candidates for producing detectable gravitational waves. I would guess that collisions with a high degree of symmetry are the easiest to model, whereas highly asymmetric ones are probably much more difficult to say anything about.
 
This is an interesting question, actually... I think next time I get the chance I'll ask some of the folks at work (who numerically solve the E.Eqns and do these kind of black hole mergers) what happens to the actual singularities during a merger.
 
Nabeshin said:
This is an interesting question, actually... I think next time I get the chance I'll ask some of the folks at work (who numerically solve the E.Eqns and do these kind of black hole mergers) what happens to the actual singularities during a merger.

That would be great. If they can point us to a review article on arxiv or something, that would be very cool.
 

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