Small Ball Falling: Velocity, Acceleration & Height vs Time

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1.Small ball with mass m falls from hight h. Find how velocity, acceleration and height depend on time. Air resistance is linear and depends on velocity ##F = kv##.

2. Air resistance ##F=kv##
where ##k## is constant.

3. I do not know where to go after ##ma = mg - kv ##.
 
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Patrikp said:
1.Small ball with mass m falls from hight h. Find how velocity, acceleration and height depend on time. Air resistance is linear and depends on velocity ##F = kv##.

2. Air resistance ##F=kv##
where ##k## is constant.

3. I do not know where to go after ##ma = mg - kv ##.
a = dv/dt and v = ds/dt
Do you know anything about solving differential equations?
 
Mark44 said:
a = dv/dt and v = ds/dt
Do you know anything about solving differential equations?

That is the problem... I know that a= dv/dt but where do I go then? I tried to integrate but got nowhere.
 
Mark44 said:
Show me what you did...

I wrote it like ## (dv)/(dt) + v(k/m)= g##
And then multiplied by ##e^{∫(k/m)dt}##
to get
##v= e^{-(∫(k/m)dt)}(∫ge^{∫(k/m)dt}dt + c)##
and that gave something wrong.
 
Patrikp said:
I wrote it like ## (dv)/(dt) + v(k/m)= g##
And then multiplied by ##e^{∫(k/m)dt}##
to get
##v= e^{-(∫(k/m)dt)}(∫ge^{∫(k/m)dt}dt + c)##
and that gave something wrong.
Why don't you simplify ##e^{\int (k/m)dt}##? There's no point in leaving it like this.
 
Mark44 said:
Why don't you simplify ##e^{\int (k/m)dt}##? There's no point in leaving it like this.
I simplified but did not write it here... Anyways the result i should get is ##v(t)= ((mg)/k )(1-e^{-((kt)/m))}) ## and I cannot get it. Do you see mistake ??
 
Your work should include a line like this:
$$ve^{(k/m)t} = g\int e^{(k/m)t}dt = g(m/k)e^{(k/m)t} + C$$
Now solve for v.
 
Mark44 said:
Your work should include a line like this:
$$ve^{(k/m)t} = g\int e^{(k/m)t}dt = g(m/k)e^{(k/m)t} + C$$
Now solve for v.
Thanks.
But I still can't get right result? And I always get that C hanging there?
 
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What do you get when you solve for v?
 
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Mark44 said:
What do you get when you solve for v?
##v= (g/m)k + Ce^{-((kt)/m)}##
 
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Patrikp said:
##v= (g/m)k + Ce^{-((kt)/m)}##
How did g(m/k) become (g/m)k? The other term looks fine.
 
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Mark44 said:
How did g(m/k) become (g/m)k? The other term looks fine.
It's typo. I don't know why the solution is wrong then.
Thanks for help!
 
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There are initial conditions that aren't being used -- at t = 0, s(0) = h and v(0) = 0. The initial velocity isn't given explicitly, but I am inferring it from the statement in the 1st post - small ball falls from height h.

Use v(0) = 0 to get rid of the constant C. Otherwise, the solution is correct, which I've checked, and you should as well.
 
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