Solid State Physics: Atomic chain oscillations

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The discussion centers around a homework problem in Solid State Physics involving a chain of molecules with specific spring constants. Part a) requires an approximation where the molecules are considered rigid, while part b) assumes the molecules are not connected by springs. Participants suggest that for part b), the spring constant Q should approach zero, while for part a), K might need to approach infinity. The problem hints at the existence of two independent resonant frequencies in the system. Clarification on the implications of these approximations is sought.
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Homework Statement


Ok, don't get angry with me. The original problem is from Solid State Physics but my problem is very well in "Introductory physics". Here is the problem:

The chain consists of molecules, which has three atoms, each with mass ##M##. Spring constant between the atoms inside the molecule is ##K## and between the molecules ##Q \ll K## as shown in the picture.
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part a) wants me to do "something" and use approximation that the molecules are rigid.
part b) wants me to do "something else" and use approximation that the molecules are not connected with a spring.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Now both of these approximations in part a) and b) should tell me something about the spring constants ##Q## and ##K##. But I can't figure it out.

I am assuming that part b) wants me to set ##Q\rightarrow 0## while I have absolutely no idea what part a) is supposed to say. Maybe that ##K\rightarrow \infty##?
 
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skrat said:

Homework Statement


Ok, don't get angry with me. The original problem is from Solid State Physics but my problem is very well in "Introductory physics". Here is the problem:

The chain consists of molecules, which has three atoms, each with mass ##M##. Spring constant between the atoms inside the molecule is ##K## and between the molecules ##Q \ll K## as shown in the picture.
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Now
part a) wants me to do "something" and use approximation that the molecules are rigid.
part b) wants me to do "something else" and use approximation that the molecules are not connected with a spring.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Now both of these approximations in part a) and b) should tell me something about the spring constants ##Q## and ##K##. But I can't figure it out.

I am assuming that part b) wants me to set ##Q\rightarrow 0## while I have absolutely no idea what part a) is supposed to say. Maybe that ##K\rightarrow \infty##?
It looks as if the system has two resonant frequencies, and the two are independent.
 
skrat said:
I have absolutely no idea what part a) is supposed to say. Maybe that K→∞K\rightarrow \infty?
Sounds right.
 
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