What Are the Solubility Rules for Predicting Precipitate Formation?

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In summary, our teacher gave us some solubility rules and we did a problem where we mixed two solutions and checked to see if a precipitate would form. He calculated Qsp for one of the products and compared it to Ksp for that product, and found that the 'other' product obeyed the solubility rules. So from what we understand, when you mix two solutions to see if a precipitate forms, you ignore the soluble products because they have infinite solubility.
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Ok, so basically, our teacher gave us some solubility rules... then we did a problem where we mixed two solutions and checked to see if a precipitate would form.

So he calculated Qsp for one of the products and compared it to Ksp for that product, he did not calculate Qsp and Ksp and forth 'other'... this 'other' product obeyed the solubility rules.

So from what I understand, when you mix two solutions to see if a precipitate forms, you ignore the soluble products because they have infinite solubility?

I mean, do the solubility rules tell us that those substances have infinite solubility?
 
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Homework Statement


Ok, so basically, our teacher gave us some solubility rules... then we did a problem where we mixed two solutions and checked to see if a precipitate would form.

So he calculated Qsp for one of the products and compared it to Ksp for that product, he did not calculate Qsp and Ksp and forth 'other'... this 'other' product obeyed the solubility rules.

So from what I understand, when you mix two solutions to see if a precipitate forms, you ignore the soluble products because they have infinite solubility?

I mean, do the solubility rules tell us that those substances have infinite solubility?
Nothing has infinite solubility.

If you look in tables (like in the CRC Handbook) you will see solubility data given, units will be something like grams per kg water, or grams per liter.
 
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In a way infinite solubility is miscibility. But its not about solids dissolved in liquids, but about liquids dissolved in liquids.
 
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Ok. So infinite solubility doesn't exist, but in the original case mentioned, we ignore the soluble substance because its just way more soluble, correct?
 
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Ok. So infinite solubility doesn't exist, but in the original case mentioned, we ignore the soluble substance because its just way more soluble, correct?

Na+ salts are very soluble, nitrates are soluble, ... Some things are very soluble, many things are insoluble. Generally when you are trying to mix two liquids together, you will have an anion paired with something like sodium cation and a cation paired with something like nitrate. Mixing the two will give you e.g. "sodium nitrate" as one candidate for froming a precipitate (it won't because it si really soluble) and another candidate -- e.g. AgCl (like if you mixed silver nitrate with sodium chloride). As you do more of these things you will learn to recognize the likely culprit from the innocent bystander -- like any good detective!
 

1. What is the definition of solubility?

Solubility is the ability of a substance to dissolve in a liquid, usually water, to form a homogeneous solution.

2. How is solubility determined?

Solubility is determined by the interaction between the molecules of the solute and the solvent. It is affected by factors such as temperature, pressure, and the chemical nature of the solute and solvent.

3. What is the solubility rule?

The solubility rule is a set of guidelines used to predict whether a substance will dissolve in a particular solvent. It states that "like dissolves like," meaning that substances with similar polarity and intermolecular forces will dissolve in each other.

4. What are some exceptions to the solubility rule?

There are some notable exceptions to the solubility rule, such as polar substances like ethanol dissolving in nonpolar substances like oil. This is because the strength of the intermolecular forces between the solute and solvent can sometimes outweigh their polarity differences.

5. How can solubility affect chemical reactions?

Solubility can affect the rate and outcome of chemical reactions. A solute must be dissolved in a solvent in order for it to react with other substances. If a substance is not soluble, it may not react at all. In addition, the solubility of a substance can also impact the concentration of reactants, which can affect reaction rates.

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