Solve 3 Phase Total Power Problems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving problems related to three-phase total power in electrical systems. Participants are exploring the appropriate equations and methods for calculating power in balanced delta connections, with a focus on understanding the differences between line currents and branch currents.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their approach to calculating total power in a three-phase system and questions the correctness of their equations.
  • Another participant suggests that the calculations appear acceptable and recommends adjusting significant figures in the final power value.
  • A participant references an online equation for power in a balanced delta system, questioning its applicability to their situation.
  • It is noted that the participant has calculated branch currents instead of line currents, which affects the power calculations, and that summing the real powers of each branch is a valid approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the correct approach to calculating total power, as there are differing views on the relevance of the equations and the method of calculation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of line and branch currents and how they relate to the total power calculations in three-phase systems.

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Homework Statement


I have included the problems attached below. I have looked at a recent post and the equations made sense to me but I am very new to 3 phase systems basically know only what I have learned from trying to answer my questions. i feel my attempt is wrong from what I have seen online as total power equation in 3 phase system. I have included link. I am not sure which equation to use now I think mine is wrong.[/B]

Homework Equations


https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/delta-and-star-transformation-ac-circuits.791979/
and online 3 phase power solution
https://www.electricaltechnology.org/2014/09/delta-connection-power-voltage-current.html

The Attempt at a Solution


I have attached all my workings[/B]
 

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Your calculations look okay to me. You might want to trim the significant figures in your final power value, maybe express it in kW.
 
hi gneill
thanks again.
Did you see the online link to P = √3 x VL x IL x CosФ for a balanced system delta. is that not different from mine.
 
billyray said:
Did you see the online link to P = √3 x VL x IL x CosФ for a balanced system delta. is that not different from mine.
Yes. Note that in this instance you have not calculated the Line currents (##I_L##), but rather the separate load branch currents for the Delta load. This makes a difference because the Line currents are made up of combinations of currents of load branches (which have different relative phases). Now, if you directly calculate the real power for each branch of the load as you've done, then you can simply sum those real powers.
 
thanks gneill
 

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