Solve Curvilinear Motion Homework: Car Dropped from 110 ft/s in 3 secs

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The problem involves a stunt car driven off a cliff with an initial speed of 110 ft/s, and the objective is to determine the gravitational acceleration of the car normal to its path after falling for 3 seconds. The discussion centers around curvilinear motion and the application of kinematic equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to analyze the motion in both horizontal and vertical components, with some suggesting the use of normal and tangential components of acceleration. Questions arise about the necessity of certain calculations and the interpretation of velocity as a vector.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to find the velocity vector and its components. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the direction of the velocity and the normal component of acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the coordinate system being used, particularly the orientation of the y-axis, which affects the interpretation of velocity components. Some participants express uncertainty about the relevance of their calculations and the overall approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement



A stunt car is driven off a cliff with a speed of 110 ft/s. What is the gravitational acceleration of the car normal to its path after falling for 3 seconds?

Homework Equations



The kinematic equations...?

I'm pretty sure that this should be done in Normal and tangential components, so with that said:

s = \theta r
a_t = \dot{v} = v \frac{dv}{ds} = \alpha r
v = \dot{s} = \omega r
a_n = \frac{v^2}{\rho} = \omega^2 r Where \rho is the radius of curvature.

The Attempt at a Solution



For the x-direction:
(v_0)_x = 110

t = 3

\Delta x = (v_0)_x t = (110)(3) = 330

For the y-direction:
y = y_0 + (v_0)_y t + \frac{1}{2} a t^2

Solving for distance in the y-direction:

y = \frac{1}{2}(-g)t^2 \quad (t = 3)

y = -144.9 ft


But I really have no idea if any of that is necessary, or if it is where do I go from there?
 
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Hi mathmann,

You got the position of the car, and you know that the acceleration is g, downward. You need the normal component of the acceleration. The normal of a curve is perpendicular to its tangent. And you also know that the velocity is tangent to the path at any point.

Find the velocity vector at the point (330, -144.9) first.

ehild
 
ehild said:
Hi mathmann,

You got the position of the car, and you know that the acceleration is g, downward. You need the normal component of the acceleration. The normal of a curve is perpendicular to its tangent. And you also know that the velocity is tangent to the path at any point.

Find the velocity vector at the point (330, -144.9) first.

ehild



Ok so for the x-direction since there is no acceleration then v_x = 110 and for y-direction v^2 = v_0^2 + 2(-g)(-144.9) to get v_y = 96.6, this is my guess on what to do next.

v = \sqrt{v_x^2 + v_y^2} = 146.39

But that is a scalar..? So again I'm stuck. Thank you for your first post though
 
The velocity is a vector. Write it out with its horizontal and vertical components. I see, you have set the coordinate system that the y-axis points upward.

ehild
 
ehild said:
The velocity is a vector. Write it out with its horizontal and vertical components. I see, you have set the coordinate system that the y-axis points upward.

ehild

So v = (110, 96.6) ft/s. I know this is a very basic question I just am so lost on what to do.
 
I don't know if this will be any use.. But its the picture for the question.
 

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The car moves downward. What is the sign of the y component of velocity? Could you show the velocity vector in the picture?

You need the direction perpendicular to the velocity. What do you know about the components of the vectors which are perpendicular to each other? ehild
 
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