Solve Distance for Box A Sliding Down Ramp

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The discussion revolves around calculating the stopping distance of a 30 lb box sliding down a frictionless ramp with a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.6. The user correctly applies the work-energy principle to find the final velocity of the box at the bottom of the ramp, which is determined to be 16.05 ft/s. However, they mistakenly calculate the distance traveled after leaving the ramp as 6.67 ft instead of the distance from the end of the platform. The correct stopping distance from the end of the surface is 3.33 ft, highlighting the importance of distinguishing between total distance traveled and the required distance from a specific point. The discussion emphasizes the need for careful attention to detail in physics calculations.
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The 30 lb box A is released from rest and slides down along the smooth ramp and onto the surface. Determine the distance s from the end of the surface to where the box stops. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the cart and the box is \mu_k\,=\,0.6.

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Here is what I have so far:


-W\,\Delta\,y\,=\,(-30\,lb)\,(-4\,ft)\,=\,120\,ft\,lb

\sum\,F_y\,=\,N\,-\,W\,=\,0\,\Rightarrow\,N\,=\,W\,=\,30\,lb

\sum\,F_x\,=\,-f_k\,=\,m\,a_x\,\Rightarrow\,-\mu_k\,N\,=\,m\,a_x

(-0.6)\,(30\,lb)\,=\,(0.932)\,a_x

a_x\,=\,\frac{-18.6}{0.932}\,=\,-19.3\,\frac{ft}{s^2}

Now what?

I know I need to find v_f and the bottom of the hill and I am probably supposed to use a work-energy equation?

\sum\,T_1\,+\,\sum\,U_{1\,-\,2}\,=\,\sum\,T_2

Please help, thanks.
 
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VinnyCee said:
know I need to find vf and the bottom of the hill and I am probably supposed to use a work-energy equation?
Yes, as the ramp is frictionless the kinetic energy gained by the block will equal the work done by gravity; 1/2mv2 = mgh. A good point to note for future reference is that the velocity of the object is independent of the mass.
 
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Using that, I get this:

V_f^2\,=\,2\,g\,h\,=\,2\,(32.2)\,(4)\,=\,257.6

V_f\,=\,\sqrt{257.6}\,=\,16.05\,\frac{ft}{s}

v\,=\,v_0\,+\,a\,t

0\,=\,16.05\,+(-19.3)\,t

t\,=\,0.832\,s

s\,=\,s_0\,+\,v_0\,t\,+\,\frac{1}{2}\,a\,t^2

s\,=\,0\,+\,(16.05)\,(0.832)\,+\,\frac{1}{2}\,a\,t^2

s\,=\,6.67\,ft

The real answer is 3.33 ft though! What did I do wrong?
 
Your going to kick yourself for this one. You have calculated the distance travelled, not the distance from the end of the platform. HINT: What does 10 - 6.67 equal? :wink:
 
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