Solve Mechanics Problems: Find Time & Displacement Relation

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The discussion revolves around mechanics problems involving the relationship between time and displacement, as well as velocity. The original poster presents two equations related to force and motion, seeking assistance in deriving these relationships.

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  • Participants discuss applying different methods, including differential equations and trial solutions. There are attempts to relate acceleration to velocity and displacement, as well as questions about integration and the implications of initial conditions.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the equations and suggested methods for approaching the problem, while others have expressed uncertainty about the next steps. There is a mix of ideas being explored, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Homework Statement
A problem I can't solve
Relevant Equations
F=m(x+2)
F=m(2v+3)
First
F=m(x+2)
Initial velocity is 2m/s
find the relation between the time and displacement

Second
F=m(2v+3)
Initial velocity is 3 m/s
Find v(t)
Please help me
I tried but I can't finish it
 
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AhmedHesham said:
Problem Statement: A problem I can't solve
Relevant Equations: F=m(x+2)
F=m(2v+3)

First
F=m(x+2)
Initial velocity is 2m/s
find the relation between the time and displacement

Second
F=m(2v+3)
Initial velocity is 3 m/s
Find v(t)
Please help me
I tried but I can't finish it
What have you done so far?
 
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Chestermiller said:
What have you done so far?
first I applied a=vdv/dx
and in the second one
I applied a=dv/dt
 
Substitute an exponential trial solution

##A+Be^{Ct}##

(either as displacement or velocity) in the differential equation and try to determine what A,B,C should be for the equation to be correct.
 
hilbert2 said:
Substitute an exponential trial solution

##A+Be^{Ct}##

(either as displacement or velocity) in the differential equation and try to determine what A,B,C should be for the equation to be correct.
How can I solve it with simple calculus
 
AhmedHesham said:
How can I solve it with simple calculus
You need to start showing more effort here, or this thread will be closed. Please use the hint given by @hilbert2
 
The first equation is a differential equation for the displacement ##x(t)##,

##m\frac{d^2 x(t)}{dt^2} = m(x(t)+2)##

and the second one a DE for the velocity ##v(t)## (it could also be written for displacement, but it's not what is asked here),

##m\frac{dv(t)}{dt} = m(2v(t)+3)##.

The initial condition in the first is ##x(0)=2##, and in the second ##v(0)=3##. The parameters in the equations are dimensionless, so I won't add units to these initial conditions, either.

If you put the exponential trial function in the place of ##x(t)## or ##v(t)## in either equation, you will get an equation that you can try to change into an identically true statement by adjusting ##A,B,C##.

Sorry if I gave too much information compared to the poster's own effort.
 
hilbert2 said:
The first equation is a differential equation for the displacement ##x(t)##,

##m\frac{d^2 x(t)}{dt^2} = m(x(t)+2)##

and the second one a DE for the velocity ##v(t)## (it could also be written for displacement, but it's not what is asked here),

##m\frac{dv(t)}{dt} = m(2v(t)+3)##.

The initial condition in the first is ##x(0)=2##, and in the second ##v(0)=3##. The parameters in the equations are dimensionless, so I won't add units to these initial conditions, either.

If you put the exponential trial function in the place of ##x(t)## or ##v(t)## in either equation, you will get an equation that you can try to change into an identically true statement by adjusting ##A,B,C##.

Sorry if I gave too much information compared to the poster's own effort.
thanks
 
AhmedHesham said:
first I applied a=vdv/dx
and in the second one
I applied a=dv/dt
This was a good idea. So, in the first one, $$mv\frac{dv}{dx}=m(x+2)$$and$$vdv=(x+2)dx$$
Do you know how to integrate this?
 
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Chestermiller said:
This was a good idea. So, in the first one, $$mv\frac{dv}{dx}=m(x+2)$$and$$vdv=(x+2)dx$$
Do you know how to integrate this?
Yes
And I will have a relation between vsquard and x
What next
 
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AhmedHesham said:
Yes
And I will have a relation between vsquard and x
What next
Let’s see what you got.
 
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