Solving a differential to show the homogeneity of space.

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The discussion revolves around proving a differential equation related to the homogeneity of space, specifically involving a function defined by an ansatz. The participants are exploring the implications of this equation and the behavior of the function under differentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the quotient rule to a differential equation but encounters difficulties in simplifying the expression. Some participants suggest starting from the ansatz and manipulating the equation to find a constant. Others question the correctness of the algebraic manipulations involved.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem. Some participants have provided guidance on algebraic manipulation, while others reflect on the potential for alternative methods suggested in solution sheets. The discussion remains open without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Participants note discrepancies in signs and the complexity of the derivative involved, indicating potential assumptions or errors in the initial setup that are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


The final part of the problem I am trying to solve requires the proof of the following equation:
[tex]\frac{d}{dr}(\frac{rf'(r)-f(r)+f^2(r)}{r^2 f^2(r)})=0[/tex][/B]

Homework Equations


I've been given the ansatz:
[tex]f(r)=(1-kr^2)^{-1}[/tex]
leading to
[tex]f'(r)=2krf^2(r)[/tex]
[tex]f''(r)=2kf^2(r)+8(kr)^2f^3(r)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Using the quotient rule on the first equation and cancelling some terms and the denominator gets me to:
[tex](rf)^2(rf''+2ff')-(rf'-f+f^2)(2rf^2+2r^2ff')=0[/tex]
Expanding, cancelling and subbing in for f' & f'' leads me to:
[tex]2kr^3f^4+8k^2r^5f^5+2rf^3-2rf^4-4kr^4f^3=0[/tex]

I have tried subbing in the ansatz value for f, but I still can't get the terms to cancel out. Would anybody be able to point out where I've made a mistake/ what I've missed?
 
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If you were to start with your ansatz, then the problem looks like:
## \frac{d}{dr}\left( \frac{ r(2kr)f^2 - f + f^2}{r^2 f^2 }\right) =0 ##
Which could just as well be written as:
##\left( \frac{ r(2kr)f^2 - f + f^2}{r^2 f^2 }\right) =C ##
Separate the fractions and you have: *edited to correct sign error*
##\left( \frac{ r(2kr)f^2 }{r^2 f^2 } + \frac{ -f + f^2}{r^2 f^2 }\right) =C ##
That first fraction is clearly a constant...do some algebra on the second...and I think you might find your solution.
 
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Ah thanks! I've got there now. On the solution sheet they seem to suggest a different method using f''(r) but don't show it explicitly but this definitely seems valid. (Though I think the + should be a - in your third equation after splitting the fraction.)
 
I agree on both points. I was hasty in splitting the fractions and it did sound like the problem was enticing you to take the complicated derivative.
 

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