Solving Beam Hinge Torque for Horizontal Force

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The discussion focuses on solving for the horizontal component of the force exerted by a hinge on a beam supported by a cable. The beam's weight and tension create torques that need to be balanced, leading to the equation Tsin(theta) = (1/2)mgcos(theta). Participants emphasize the importance of accurately labeling forces and drawing a complete free body diagram to avoid mistakes. The need for a clear understanding of linear force equations versus torque equations is highlighted. Properly resolving the forces and taking moments about the hinge will help in finding the required values.
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Homework Statement


A 35.0kg beam is attached to a wall with a hinge and its far end is supported by a cable. The angle between the beam and the cable is 90o. If the beam is inclined at an angle of theta=14.0o with respect to horizontal, what is the horizontal component of the force exerted by the hinge on the beam? (Use the `to the right' as + for the horizontal direction.)

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i know that the horizontal force at pivot must be equal and opposite to horizontal force of tension. so for torques i have
LTsin(theta) = (L/2)mgcos(theta)
Ls cancel
so Tsin(theta) = (1/2)mgcos(theta)

but I don't know what I'm solving for exactly.. when I draw the free body diagram I have that F(horiz)=Fcos(theta), which seems to contradict my equations... help please!
 

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NAkid said:
LTsin(theta) = (L/2)mgcos(theta)

About which point are you taking the moments?

but I don't know what I'm solving for exactly.. when I draw the free body diagram I have that F(horiz)=Fcos(theta),...

What is F?

First label the forces properly. Resolve into horizontal and vertical components. Without a neat diagram, you will keep making mistakes. Then take the torques about a suitable point.
 
Draw a complete diagram!

Hi NAkid!

Shooting Star is right.

You must draw in the force F at the hinge, and an angle (phi, perhaps?) for it.

And the tension force and the weight force.

It's no good keeping half the diagram in your head - "Without a neat diagram, you will keep making mistakes", and even miss some things completely.
NAkid said:
i know that the horizontal force at pivot must be equal and opposite to horizontal force of tension.

Yes, and that's a linear force equation, not a torque, isn't it?

And you haven't written it down, anyway!
so for torques i have
LTsin(theta) = (L/2)mgcos(theta)
Ls cancel
so Tsin(theta) = (1/2)mgcos(theta)

I'm not sure what you've done here.

After you've written the linear force equation, do the torque about the hinge, and that should immediatly give you the value of T.

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