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The discussion focuses on finding the nth derivative of the function f(x) = (5x² - 3x - 20) / (x² - 2x - 3). Viet Dao initially struggles with the differentiation process but receives guidance, leading to the formulation of f(x) as 5 + 4/(x - 3) + 3/(x + 1). The derived first derivative is confirmed as f'(x) = -4/(x - 3)² - 3/(x + 1)². A formula for the nth derivative is proposed and verified using mathematical induction, confirming its validity for all natural numbers. The conversation emphasizes the importance of simplification and pattern recognition in calculus.
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Hi,
The question asks:
f(x) = \frac{5x^{2} - 3x - 20}{x^{2} - 2x - 3}
Find:
f^{(n)}(x)
I try to find its rule, but I fail:
I have:
f'(x) = \frac{-7x^{2} + 10x - 31}{(x^{2} - 2x - 3)^{2}}
And I have f''(x) is some kind of very very complicated number. What should I do in this kind of problem??
Any help will be appreciated,
Viet Dao,
 
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Differentiate a few times simplifying as much as you can. Here is what I got:

f(x) = 5 + \frac{4}{x - 3} + \frac{3}{x + 1}

f'(x) = -\frac{4}{(x - 3)^2} - \frac{3}{(1 + x)^2}

I feel if I go any further I'll completely give the pattern away, carry on differentiating.
 
So the answer is:
f^{(n)} = \frac{(-1)^{n}4(n!)}{(x - 3)^{n + 1}} + \frac{(-1)^{n}3(n!)}{(x + 1)^{n + 1}}
Am I correct??
 
U can use induction method to prove your formula right...


Daniel.
 
So...
f^{1}(x) = -\frac{4}{(x - 3)^{2}} - \frac{3}{(1 + x)^2}
So the formula is correct if n = 1.
Assume it's correct for n = k:
f^{(k)}(x) = \frac{(-1)^{k}4(k!)}{(x - 3)^{k + 1}} + \frac{(-1)^{k}3(k!)}{(x + 1)^{k + 1}}
Prove it's correct if n = k + 1:
f^{(k + 1)}(x) = 4(k!)(-1)^{k}\frac{-(k + 1)(x - 3)^{k}}{(x - 3)^{2k + 2}} + (-1)^{k}3(k!)\frac{-(k + 1)(x + 1)^{k}}{(x + 1)^{2k + 2}}
= \frac{4(k + 1)!(-1)^{k + 1}}{(x - 3)^{k + 2}} + \frac{(-1)^{k + 1}3(k + 1)!}{(x + 1)^{k + 2}}
So the formula is true \forall n \in N*
Am I correct?
Viet Dao,
 
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