Solving for Angle of Elevation: p = 12.67°

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The problem involves calculating the angle of elevation, p, for a ball projected from a 15 m high pole with a speed of 10 m/s, landing 20 m away horizontally. The equations of motion for horizontal and vertical components are set up, leading to a quadratic equation in terms of trigonometric functions. A correction regarding the signs in the vertical motion equation is highlighted, emphasizing the need to account for gravity's downward pull. The final calculation confirms that p equals 12.67 degrees. The discussion underscores the importance of correctly applying physics principles and maintaining proper sign conventions in equations.
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A small ball is projected with a speed of 10 m/s at an angle of elevation of p from the top of a vertical pole whose height is 15 m from the level ground. The ball hits the ground at a point whose horizontal distance from the foot of the pole is 20 m . Find the value of p . gravity=10 m/s^2

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Consider horizontal motion , s=Vx t

20=10 (cos p) t

t=2/(cos p) --1

Consider vertical motion,

15=10 (sin p)(2/(cos p))+1/2 (10)(2\(cos p))^2

15 cos^2 p -20 sin p cos p -20 =0

3 cos 2p - 4 sin 2p=1

5 cos (2p+53.13)=1

2p+53.13=78.46

therefore , p=12.67 degrees

Am i correct ?
 
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15=10 (sin p)(2/(cos p))-1/2 (10)(2\(cos p))^2

Till the above step you are right except one sign. Next

15 = 20tan(p) - 20sec^2(p)

Put sec^2(p) = 1 + tan^2(p) and solve for tan(p)
 
rl.bhat said:
15=10 (sin p)(2/(cos p))-1/2 (10)(2\(cos p))^2

Till the above step you are right except one sign. Next

15 = 20tan(p) - 20sec^2(p)

Put sec^2(p) = 1 + tan^2(p) and solve for tan(p)

Thanks but isn't the ball being projected downwards which is in the path of the gravity pull ?
 
thereddevils said:
Thanks but isn't the ball being projected downwards which is in the path of the gravity pull ?
Projected at an angle of elevation means up against the gravitational pull.
 
Be careful with your signs in your equation for the vertical position. We can use, since the acceleration due to gravity is approximately constant:

\Delta y \equiv y_{f}-y_{0}=v_{y}t+\frac{1}{2}at^{2}

If we define our coordinate system so that up is positive and down, negative then we are given

y_{0}=+15, v_{y}=+10sin(p), a=-g=-9.8

Since it starts out above the ground and is shot with an initial velocity up and gravity pulls it down.
 
rl.bhat said:
Projected at an angle of elevation means up against the gravitational pull.

got it , thanks
 
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