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To calculate heat rejection for a car radiator, the equation Heat exchange = u x a x deltaT requires the heat transfer coefficient (u), which is challenging to determine due to factors like turbulent flow and varying mass flows. Key variables include the heat entropy of aluminum and the total surface area exposed to both coolant and air. The complexity of the system, involving water, air, and metal, complicates finding a precise formula. An educated guess for the heat transfer coefficient and surface area may yield a rough estimate using Newton's law of cooling. Accurate calculations are difficult, and approximations are often necessary in such scenarios.
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Hi guys can anyone help

I have a problem trying to find an equation to work out the heat rejection for a car radiator I have

Heat exchange = u x a x deltaT

But I cannot find u ?


The radiators have flat profile tubes and wave fin they are made from aluminium, the formulae would have to take this into consideration and work at various mass flows through both the airside. And waterside these would be affected by vehicle speed ie the force of air pushed through the radiator. Can anyone help as I have been looking at this for hours and not getting anywhere.

Please help

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Well first you would need to know the heat entropy of aluminum. That is, how many joules of energy is required to raise (or lower) its temperature by 1 degree... You also need to know the total surface area both exposed to the coolant inside, as well as the air outside...

it's been a while since I've done a problem like that so I'd have to pretty much relearn it myself beyond that. Maybe someone else will chime in.
 
this problem is impossible, i.e. there exists no "formula" that gives heat transfer rate. This goes for any problem with turbulent flow. In a nutshell, water+air+metal combination = game over.

You get a "guess" by guesstimating the area of the fins, guesstimating a heat transfer coefficient and taking the coolant temperature as constant; then do the classic Newton's law of cooling. Errors are probably lower if you take an educated guess, let me just warn you on that...
 
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