Solving Spring-Mass System: Force of Reaction as a Function of Time

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a spring-mass system where a spring supports a box containing a block. The initial approach involves applying Newton's second law to derive the force of reaction between the block and the box as a function of time. The user considers the equations of motion for both the overall system and the block, seeking to express the normal force in terms of time. They explore the concept of simple harmonic motion (SHM) and propose using the equation x(t) = d cos(ωt) to find acceleration. The conversation emphasizes the need to differentiate this equation to obtain the necessary relationships for solving the problem.
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A spring of stiffness k supports a box of mass M in which is placed a block of mass m. If the system is pulled down a distancde d from the equilibrium position and released, find the force of reaction between the block and the bottom of the box as a function of time. Neglect any air resistance. For what value of d does the block just begin to leave the bottom of the box?

What i considered for this is as follows:
using Newtons second law:
for the overall system,
(m+M)a = kd - (m+M)g
then for the block of mass m:
ma=F_{normal}-mg
then i subbed in the second equation for ma in the first, and tried to rearrange for F_{normal}
however i am not sure how to get the force as a function of time, writing a as dv/dt doesn't help since i cannot rearrange it to integrate i think.

thanks for the help
 
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What would be the equation of motion without the extra block inside the first block?
 
without the extra block it would just be
Ma=kd - Mg
is this correct? but then how do i proceed
 
That is just a starting equation describing the forces. What physical motion results from those forces? What equation describes the SHM of the mass once the spring with the d distance preload is released?
 
x(t)=d cos (\omega t) is what comes to mind. so i can differentiate this twice to obtain acceleration as a function of time, and plug it into one of the equations i had earlier? is this a correct approach? if so what would do i solve for, thanks much appreciated
 
no more help i can get on this one?
 
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