Solving Surd Equation: Step-by-Step Guide for 5√x = 40/x

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The discussion revolves around solving the surd equation 5√x = 40/x. Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including substitution and squaring both sides.

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  • Some participants suggest using substitution by letting u = √x, while others consider squaring both sides or cross-multiplying. There are questions about the effectiveness of these methods and the reasoning behind them.

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Participants are actively sharing their thoughts on various approaches, with some expressing confusion about the substitution method and others defending its utility. There is no clear consensus on the best method, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Some participants mention a lack of familiarity with certain methods, indicating differing educational backgrounds. There are also references to the complexity of similar problems, suggesting that the discussion may extend beyond the initial equation.

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(urgent)Solving surd equation

Solve [tex]5\sqrt{x} = \frac{40}{x}[/tex]

how would I start by solving this?
Cross multipling seems to be difficul here
Thx
 
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thomas49th said:
Solve [tex]5\sqrt{x} = \frac{40}{x}[/tex]

how would I start by solving this?
Cross multipling seems to be difficul here
Thx

[tex]x\sqrt{x}=8[/tex]
[tex]x^{3/2}=2^3[/tex]
[tex]x^{3/2}=4^{3/2}[/tex]
 
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Could square both sides, and then cross multiply.
 
substitution ...

let [tex]u=\sqrt{x}[/tex]

[tex]5u = \frac{40}{u^2}[/tex]

[tex]5u - \frac{40}{u^2} = 0[/tex]
find common denominator and simplify:
[tex]u=2[/tex]

then

[tex]\sqrt{x}=2[/tex]
therefore [tex]x=4[/tex]

** lol beat me to it
 
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steven10137 said:
substitution ...

let [tex]u=\sqrt{x}[/tex]

[tex]5u = \frac{40}{u^2}[/tex]

[tex]5u - \frac{40}{u^2} = 0[/tex]
find common denominator and simplify:
[tex]u=2[/tex]

then

[tex]\sqrt{x}=2[/tex]
therefore [tex]x=4[/tex]

** lol beat me to it

i've seen weird things like this before. where did you learn this? like what country
 
ice109 said:
i've seen weird things like this before. where did you learn this? like what country

Whats weird about substitution? Its pretty standard practise anywhere :confused:
 
Kurdt said:
Whats weird about substitution? Its pretty standard practise anywhere :confused:

i was never taught that and
i don't see the point? [tex]\sqrt{x} = x^\frac{1}{2}[/tex] and then just add exponents of polynomials with like bases when multiplying
 
ice109 said:
i was never taught that and
i don't see the point? [tex]\sqrt{x} = x^\frac{1}{2}[/tex] and then just add exponents of polynomials with like bases when multiplying

well ... you weren't taught correctly, lol

nah, seems simple enough for me.
 
steven10137 said:
well ... you weren't taught correctly, lol

nah, seems simple enough for me.

what? how is that incorrect
 
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nah I am not saying your working is wrong, I'm just saying substitution is a better way, which can be applied; Particularly when doing harder and more complex problems.
 
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steven10137 said:
nah I am not saying your working is wrong, I'm just saying substitution is a better way, which can be applied; Particularly when doing harder and more complex problems.

i seriously don't see how, please show me an example
 
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ice109 said:
i seriously don't see how, please show me an example

eventually you will meet problems of that kind ;)
 
  • #13
ok, this is waaaayy off topic ... but, as per request i shall give multiple:

perhaps basic:
[tex]x - 3\sqrt{x} = -2[/tex]
let [tex]u=\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex]u^2 - 3u + 2 = 0[/tex]
[tex](u-1)(u-2) = 0[/tex]
[tex]u=1[/tex], [tex]u=2[/tex]
[tex]u=\sqrt{x}[/tex]
then
[tex]1=\sqrt{x}[/tex] and [tex]x=1[/tex]
or
[tex]2=\sqrt{x}[/tex] and [tex]x=4[/tex]

would you like another ... perhaps trigonometric, involving quotients or exponentials?
 
  • #14
Its basically the same as treating some expression (in this case, [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex] as a variable or symbol itself, and not treating it as an actual expression until the end. So instead of treating [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex] as the square root of x, its just a symbol, which we treat like any other symbol, such as a, x, y, [tex]\theta[/tex] etc.
 
  • #15
Perhaps a better example of where a substitution would help:

Solve : [tex]x^8+x^4+\pi =0[/tex]

Personally I would let u=x^4, what would you do?
 
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Gib Z said:
Perhaps a better example of where a substitution would help:

Solve : [tex]x^8+x^4+\pi =0[/tex]

Personally I would let u=x^4, what would you do?

I would solve it with my texas ti-83 =P
 
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Surds HELP!

im having trouble trying to figure out a problem. can someone help me.

(2/6 -root3)^2 - (2/6+root3)^2

if that makes sense to anyone help.

I think that the denominator of both has to be rationalised but do i expand the squared brackets first or later or what?

any ideas welcome thanks
 
  • #18
Do you mean

[tex]\left(\frac{2}{6-\sqrt{3}}\right)^2 - \left(\frac{2}{6+\sqrt{3}}\right)^2[/tex]

What are you supposed to do with this? Simplify?

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see that this question was moved into its separate thread. I'll re-post this there.
 

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