Solving Surd Equation: Step-by-Step Guide for 5√x = 40/x

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To solve the surd equation 5√x = 40/x, the initial approach involves substitution by letting u = √x, transforming the equation into 5u = 40/u². After simplifying, it leads to the quadratic equation u² - 8u + 0 = 0, resulting in u = 2, which gives x = 4. The discussion also touches on the merits of substitution versus direct manipulation of exponents, with some participants advocating for substitution as a more effective method for complex problems. The conversation briefly shifts to another user seeking help with a different surd-related problem, indicating a broader interest in solving such equations.
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(urgent)Solving surd equation

Solve 5\sqrt{x} = \frac{40}{x}

how would I start by solving this?
Cross multipling seems to be difficul here
Thx
 
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thomas49th said:
Solve 5\sqrt{x} = \frac{40}{x}

how would I start by solving this?
Cross multipling seems to be difficul here
Thx

x\sqrt{x}=8
x^{3/2}=2^3
x^{3/2}=4^{3/2}
 
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Could square both sides, and then cross multiply.
 
substitution ...

let u=\sqrt{x}

5u = \frac{40}{u^2}

5u - \frac{40}{u^2} = 0
find common denominator and simplify:
u=2

then

\sqrt{x}=2
therefore x=4

** lol beat me to it
 
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steven10137 said:
substitution ...

let u=\sqrt{x}

5u = \frac{40}{u^2}

5u - \frac{40}{u^2} = 0
find common denominator and simplify:
u=2

then

\sqrt{x}=2
therefore x=4

** lol beat me to it

i've seen weird things like this before. where did you learn this? like what country
 
ice109 said:
i've seen weird things like this before. where did you learn this? like what country

Whats weird about substitution? Its pretty standard practise anywhere :confused:
 
Kurdt said:
Whats weird about substitution? Its pretty standard practise anywhere :confused:

i was never taught that and
i don't see the point? \sqrt{x} = x^\frac{1}{2} and then just add exponents of polynomials with like bases when multiplying
 
ice109 said:
i was never taught that and
i don't see the point? \sqrt{x} = x^\frac{1}{2} and then just add exponents of polynomials with like bases when multiplying

well ... you weren't taught correctly, lol

nah, seems simple enough for me.
 
steven10137 said:
well ... you weren't taught correctly, lol

nah, seems simple enough for me.

what? how is that incorrect
 
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nah I am not saying your working is wrong, I'm just saying substitution is a better way, which can be applied; Particularly when doing harder and more complex problems.
 
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steven10137 said:
nah I am not saying your working is wrong, I'm just saying substitution is a better way, which can be applied; Particularly when doing harder and more complex problems.

i seriously don't see how, please show me an example
 
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ice109 said:
i seriously don't see how, please show me an example

eventually you will meet problems of that kind ;)
 
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ok, this is waaaayy off topic ... but, as per request i shall give multiple:

perhaps basic:
x - 3\sqrt{x} = -2
let u=\sqrt{x}
u^2 - 3u + 2 = 0
(u-1)(u-2) = 0
u=1, u=2
u=\sqrt{x}
then
1=\sqrt{x} and x=1
or
2=\sqrt{x} and x=4

would you like another ... perhaps trigonometric, involving quotients or exponentials?
 
  • #14
Its basically the same as treating some expression (in this case, \sqrt{x} as a variable or symbol itself, and not treating it as an actual expression until the end. So instead of treating \sqrt{x} as the square root of x, its just a symbol, which we treat like any other symbol, such as a, x, y, \theta etc.
 
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Perhaps a better example of where a substitution would help:

Solve : x^8+x^4+\pi =0

Personally I would let u=x^4, what would you do?
 
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Gib Z said:
Perhaps a better example of where a substitution would help:

Solve : x^8+x^4+\pi =0

Personally I would let u=x^4, what would you do?

I would solve it with my texas ti-83 =P
 
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Surds HELP!

im having trouble trying to figure out a problem. can someone help me.

(2/6 -root3)^2 - (2/6+root3)^2

if that makes sense to anyone help.

I think that the denominator of both has to be rationalised but do i expand the squared brackets first or later or what?

any ideas welcome thanks
 
  • #18
Do you mean

\left(\frac{2}{6-\sqrt{3}}\right)^2 - \left(\frac{2}{6+\sqrt{3}}\right)^2

What are you supposed to do with this? Simplify?

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see that this question was moved into its separate thread. I'll re-post this there.
 
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