Solving Tension Problem: Help for Boxes B & C in Figure 5-50

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In the discussion regarding the tension problem involving boxes A, B, and C connected by a pulley system, participants express confusion about calculating the tension in the cord connecting boxes B and C. They emphasize the importance of drawing free body diagrams (FBDs) for each block and applying Newton's second law to establish equations for the system. The tension forces and the weights of the blocks create a set of three equations with three unknowns, which can be solved simultaneously. Some participants feel lost and plan to revisit their textbook for clarification, while others suggest focusing on the FBDs to derive the necessary equations. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a systematic approach to solving tension problems in physics.
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In Figure 5-50, three ballot boxes are connected by cords, one of which wraps over a pulley having negligible friction on its axle and negligible mass. The masses are mA = 28.0 kg, mB = 40.0 kg, mC = 22.0 kg.

Box A is on the table and B/C are hanging from the table from the pulley system. So B/C would be on the vertical

(a) When the assembly is released from rest, what is the tension in the cord that connects boxes B and C?

F=ma
I'm not really sure where to start for finding the tension between the 2 boxes. Any hints to get me started would be nice, thanks.
 
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snoggerT said:
In Figure 5-50, three ballot boxes are connected by cords, one of which wraps over a pulley having negligible friction on its axle and negligible mass. The masses are mA = 28.0 kg, mB = 40.0 kg, mC = 22.0 kg.

Box A is on the table and B/C are hanging from the table from the pulley system. So B/C would be on the vertical

(a) When the assembly is released from rest, what is the tension in the cord that connects boxes B and C?




F=ma



I'm not really sure where to start for finding the tension between the 2 boxes. Any hints to get me started would be nice, thanks.
Draw free body diagrams of each block. Apply Newton 2 for each block. What can you say about the acceleration of each block?
 
PhanthomJay said:
Draw free body diagrams of each block. Apply Newton 2 for each block. What can you say about the acceleration of each block?

I'm pretty sure I drew my free body diagrams right, but that leaves me with mg, T and a. of which I only know mg, so I don't really know how to figure out my tension or acceleration. I know that Acceleration is the same for all the blocks.
 
snoggerT said:
I'm pretty sure I drew my free body diagrams right, but that leaves me with mg, T and a. of which I only know mg, so I don't really know how to figure out my tension or acceleration. I know that Acceleration is the same for all the blocks.
You have 3 fbd's, and 3 unknowns, the tension in the cable between block A and B, the tension in the cable between block B and C, and the acceleration. Solve for these values using 3 equations with 3 unknowns.
 
PhanthomJay said:
You have 3 fbd's, and 3 unknowns, the tension in the cable between block A and B, the tension in the cable between block B and C, and the acceleration. Solve for these values using 3 equations with 3 unknowns.

I don't know. I'm absolutely lost right now with these tension problems. I guess I'm going to go back and re-read the chapter to see if I can get a better understanding of it. the problem is that there is about 1/3 of a page on tension in the book. thanks for the help though.
 
snoggerT said:
I don't know. I'm absolutely lost right now with these tension problems. I guess I'm going to go back and re-read the chapter to see if I can get a better understanding of it. the problem is that there is about 1/3 of a page on tension in the book. thanks for the help though.
What did you come up with in your FBD's? Here's the bottom block C FBD: M_c(g) -T_c = M_c(a)
 
PhanthomJay said:
What did you come up with in your FBD's? Here's the bottom block C FBD: M_c(g) -T_c = M_c(a)

- I had that for the block C, but I have 2 unknowns in that equation (a and T). The only other thing I could think of would be to figure out the equation for block B and then relate the 2 equations together. I'm just not sure how to set the equation up for block B since it's mass is larger than Block C.
 
snoggerT said:
- I had that for the block C, but I have 2 unknowns in that equation (a and T). The only other thing I could think of would be to figure out the equation for block B and then relate the 2 equations together. I'm just not sure how to set the equation up for block B since it's mass is larger than Block C.
Draw the FBD for block B and see what you get. You have 2 tension forces plus the block B weight, all acting on Block B. Tension forces always pull away from the object. Then draw the FBD of Block A. You will now have 3 equations with 3 unknowns, and the problem is solvable.
 
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