Solving the equations of motions of a particles constrained to a sphere.

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The discussion focuses on solving the equations of motion for a particle constrained to a two-dimensional sphere of radius r using Lagrangian mechanics. The Lagrangian is expressed as L(q, q') = (1/2)mΣ(qi')². Participants successfully transformed the Lagrangian into spherical coordinates and derived the Euler-Lagrange equations, specifically mr²φ''sin²(θ) + φ'θ'²sin(θ)cos(θ) = 0 and r²φ'sin(θ)cos(θ) = mr²θ''. However, challenges arose in solving these equations, particularly in recognizing the constraints and integrating constants related to initial conditions.

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Homework Statement


Consider a particle moving on a two dimensional sphere of radius r, whose Lagrangian is given by:
L(q,q')=[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]m[itex]\sum[/itex](qi')2

(A) Transform the Lagrangian into spherical coordinates and write down the resulting Euler-Lagrange equations.

(B) Solve the Euler-Lagrange equations corresping to the Lagrangian and write down the solution in the original coordinates (qi). Express your answer to include the integration constants and denote them as the initial position and velocity.

Homework Equations


[itex]\frac{∂L}{∂q}[/itex]=[itex]\frac{d}{dt}[/itex][itex]\frac{∂L}{∂q'}[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have part (A) solved. The problem is part B. I really don't know where to start. But this is what I have for part (A)

mr2[itex]\phi[/itex]''Sin2(θ)+[itex]\phi[/itex]'θ'2Sin(θ)Cos(θ)=0
r2[itex]\phi[/itex]'Sin(θ)Cos(θ)=mr2θ''

I would not know where to start solving these equations.
 
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First of all, you have some typos in your equations, since 2nd equation has 1 time derivative in left and 2 in right side. Also m should drop out everywhere.

Secondly, you forgot to calculate the last equation (wrt r), which will probably prove to be very useful in solving the set.
 
In the second equation I forgot a power of [itex]\phi[/itex]'.
Also I did not forget to do one of the E.L. equations. Because we are constrained to the surface of a sphere I simply set r'=0 and treated r as a constant parameter instead of a dynamical variable. This reduces the Lagrangian (in spherical coordinates) to a Lagrangian involving two functions instead of three.
L=[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]m(r2θ'2+r2[itex]\phi[/itex]'2Sin2(θ))

I also failed to notice that since the derivative of the lagrangian with respect to [itex]\phi[/itex] is zero one of the E.L. equations will yield an integral of motion which should help out a bit.
 

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