Solving the Uniform Rod Problem: Calculating Force on a Point Charge

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force exerted by a uniformly charged rod on a point charge placed at a specific position. The user identifies that the horizontal component of the force is zero due to symmetry, leading to the need to calculate the vertical component using integration. They express the force in terms of charge density and angles but struggle with the integration process without a table. Another participant suggests simplifying the expression by using Cartesian coordinates instead of angles, allowing for a more straightforward integration approach. The conversation emphasizes the importance of transforming the problem to facilitate easier calculations.
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Sorry for the bad picture, but suppose there's a uniform rod of charge has a length L and a net charge +Q, find the force that this rod exert on a point charge q placed at (0,y).

Ok, I found by symmetry that the F(x) is 0.
\lambda=dQ/dl

So, F(y) = \int k\lambdaqcos\Theta(dl)/ (l^2 + y^2) , [-L/2, L/2]

And since y/r=cos\Theta, r= ysec\Theta, where r = (l^2 + y^2)

Then it boils down to 2kqy\lambda\int (dl)/ (y^3(sec\Theta)^3) , [0, L/2]

Then I don't know how to carry on without using the integral table...
But it should be something like this and i don't know why:
F(y) = 2kqy\lambda\int(y(sec\Theta)^2d\Theta)/ (y^3(sec\Theta)^3)
and gives 2kqy\lambda\int(cos\Theta) d\Theta
.... ans= kqQ/ y\sqrt{y^2 + (L/2)^2}

Anyways, my question is, without using the integral table, how do people actually move on to that next step?

Thanks
 
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venom_h said:
_______-^y
________l
________l
________l
________l
________________
l________________l--------> x

Sorry for the bad picture, but suppose there's a uniform rod of charge has a length L and a net charge +Q, find the force that this rod exert on a point charge q placed at (0,y).

Ok, I found by symmetry that the F(x) is 0.
\lambda=dQ/dl

So, F(y) = \int k\lambdaqcos\Theta(dl)/ (l^2 + y^2) , [-L/2, L/2]

And since y/r=cos\Theta, r= ysec\Theta, where r = (l^2 + y^2)

Then it boils down to 2kqy\lambda\int (dl)/ (y^3(sec\Theta)^3) , [0, L/2]

Then I don't know how to carry on without using the integral table...
Get rid of those angles! You should have an expression for dF in terms of x & y (I use x as the coordinate of the line charge element):
dF = \frac{kq\lambda}{(y^2 + x^2)}\cos\theta \; dx = \frac{kq \lambda x}{(y^2 + x^2)^{3/2}} \; dx

You should have no problem integrating this without a table.
 
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