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This discussion focuses on the calculation of speed and angular momentum using the equations of motion in a rotational context. The key equations presented are $$\frac{i \omega _0^2}{2}+\frac{m v_i^2}{2}=\frac{I \omega _1^2}{2}+\frac{m v_f^2}{2}$$ and $$m r v_i= I \omega +m r v_f$$, with specific values for mass (M=10, m=1), length (l=1), and initial conditions (v_i=22, ω_0=0). The user attempts to solve for final velocity (v_f) and angular velocity (ω) but encounters inconsistencies in the results, leading to a query about potential errors in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



this is not homework, I am discussing angular momentum here: https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...d-angular-momentum.776258/page-2#post-4884631, we have 2 equations$$\frac{i \omega _0^2}{2}+\frac{m v_i^2}{2}=\frac{I \omega _1^2}{2}+\frac{m
v_f^2}{2}$$
## I \omega _0+m r v_0=~I \omega _1+m r v_1 ##
## ~M=10,~m=1,~l=1, ~I=\frac{[l^2] M = 10}{12},~r=\frac{l}{2} = 0.5,~v_i=22,~\omega _0=0, ~\omega_1 = x##

Homework Equations


$$\frac{m v_i^2}{2}=\frac{I \omega ^2}{2}+\frac{m
v_f^2}{2} \rightarrow v_f^2 = (v_i^2= ~22^2) = 484 - \frac{5}{6}\omega^2 $$
## m r v_i= ~I \omega +m r v_f \rightarrow v_f = 22 - \frac{10}{6}\omega##

The Attempt at a Solution


The problem is simple, but I get a funny result. I tried hundreds of times with different approaches to no avail; can you tell me where I go wrong, or if the problem has no solution?
## v_f = 22 - \frac{10}{6}\omega → v_f^2 = 22^2 + \frac{10^2}{6^2} \omega^2 + \frac{2*22*-10}{6}\omega ##
## v_f^2 = 484 + \frac{100}{36} \omega^2 - \frac{440}{6}\omega ##
plugging in the first equation:

## (v_f^2 = ) ~484 - \frac{5}{6}x^2 = 484 + \frac{100}{36} x^2 - \frac{440}{6}x \rightarrow - \frac{30}{36}x^2 = \frac{100}{36}x^2 - \frac{6*440}{36}x = 130x^2 = 2640 x ##
## x= 2640/130 = 20.3 ##
 
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bobie said:
$$ v_f^2 = (v_i^2= ~22^2) = 484 - \frac{5}{6}\omega^2 $$
Check that last term.
 

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